Author Topic: Efficient DSL2.1 Building Tutorial by Naryar (Read 18370 times)

HurricaneAndrew · « **Reply #20 on:** April 04, 2012, 01:31:08 PM »

Quote from: Lightning S. on April 04, 2012, 01:24:36 PM

Shouldn't there be something about the Powered Steering Unit in drive motors? That's in DSL as well as stock.

Since when is the Car Steering in DSL?

Naryar · « **Reply #21 on:** April 04, 2012, 01:43:24 PM »

Quote from: HurricaneAndrew on April 04, 2012, 01:31:08 PM

Quote from: Lightning S. on April 04, 2012, 01:24:36 PM
Shouldn't there be something about the Powered Steering Unit in drive motors? That's in DSL as well as stock.

Since when is the Car Steering in DSL?

It's always been, and it sucks.

Naryar · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2012, 11:05:02 AM »

Improved the weapons part. I'm gonna work on this more regularly.

Gauche Suede · « **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2012, 01:48:00 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on August 16, 2012, 11:05:02 AM

Improved the weapons part. I'm gonna work on this more regularly.

can you do the drive part next? you know, what wheels are good, decent, and bad.

Kossokei · « **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2012, 02:55:38 AM »

I'm gonna guess that you aren't done with weapons yet, but just saying; Missing Gothic Axe, Battle Axe, Samurai Sword, Canine Saw, assorted teeth, and mentions of flippers, wedges (both of which are technically weapons) and although it's not a weapon, some sort of mention for ballasts.

I know, not done yet, but again, just sayin'

ty4er · « **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2012, 03:51:38 AM »

i think you missed spike strips aswell.

and what about using weapons for non-weapon purposes?

and of course dsl bars

Naryar · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2012, 05:40:11 AM »

Improved weapons part, rewrote part of the drive part. No wheels... yet.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2012, 10:55:28 PM »

I don't know Nary. You got some weird choice for weapon I must say.

I mean, putting anything in the same class as razors, ds light, and beater bars are just misleading. To say the other "good" stuff are above iron spikes makes no sense. And DS heavy/hypno teeth.... why would you use any of that? DS Heavy is exceptionally bad with terrible damage output due to weird shape, and 300hp less than listed.

And razor spam owns hammer BAD in weapon to weapon wars due to damage over-float and component taking 1 additional hit to "fracture" at 0 health (all components has a default fracture of 50)...... Also the game mechanic highly favors piercing because concussion is largely ignored vs a spinner/flail. And even if you pit a razor/bar pusher vs a hammer pusher razor bar still wins. I mean cash cow with it's 180kg weapons can take out 4 70kg hammers (280kg) with weapons left. That's why good de-weapon pushers (The Ounce?) are made out of razor/bar, ds light/bar, even iron/bar, but not hammers.

Hammer has their use because that requires less attachment points and therefore means significantly more weapon weight in some limited settings, like those lightweights with 2x 70kg hammers. Lightweight favors hammers because those 3kgs for attachment point actually matters, and damage is low enough that over-float isn't as significant. But they can still lose the weapon war to a bot with less weapon weight. Beyond lightweight the damage over-float just makes high HP weapons obsolete.