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« Reply #140 on: November 20, 2009, 10:44:26 PM »
It looks good, but battery total power looks like an issue to me.

I and Pwn (i think) were both talking about this one as well for your previous robot.

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« Reply #141 on: November 20, 2009, 11:41:40 PM »
For performance, I would predict that razor tips to outperform lightning spikes.

I think the 5 ants are good if you anticipate that most actions are over within 56 seconds and the rest of the 2 minutes are pretty much to finish up.  It doesn't look like the kind of "let's break all the weapons in 10 seconds" bot.  So maybe you might benefit for having more than 5 ants.

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« Reply #142 on: November 20, 2009, 11:57:01 PM »
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For performance, I would predict that razor tips to outperform lightning spikes.


So would I, but I originally built it with razor tips and it consistently lost all its weapons against Industrial Coal Miner, and couldn't break a single hammer off of Grog the Resurrection.  As it is now it can beat ICM with weapons to spare, and can knock off a hammer or two from Grog.

I agree that more total power would be useful on Gigawhirl VI.  It does tend to slow down slightly toward the end of the match, though not enough to really hinder it.  However, with so much weight in the drive and wedge I want all the weapon weight I can get, which means sacrificing batteries.

Maybe I can take off 2 small teeth and add one more battery... worth a try.

Darkling 2 definitely doesn't need any more power though.  That is not a bot built for longevity.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #143 on: December 29, 2009, 11:02:53 PM »
Drumblebee D2!  (D is for DSL)



Coulda entered this for BOTM, but meh... everyone would know instantly it was mine, and it's not really very original.  Plus I think there is still room for improvement.

2 fast NPC's, 2 Perm 132's, 2 red battlepacks + 3 ant batts, 3mm Al armor (I know, I know, it's not very weight-efficient but it's the strongest armor I had weight for), 16 large beater bars.  Fully invertible.

My goal with DB D2 was to make a big, fast drum with a lot of throwing power.  It's easy to load Perms with tons of drums and beater bars so they end up spinning not very fast, and the drum is easy to stop.  Not so with Drumblebee D2.  Each side of the drum has its own Perm 132 spinning a very reasonable 80 kg of weapons.  The drums are all but impossible to slow down, and it consistently gets under any other drum bot.  It even gets under some bots with wedges in the right circumstances.

The stinger in the back is designed to hit bots that get thrown over and behind the drum, and possibly get them back on the drum for more damage.  It doesn't work as well as I would like, but it comes in handy if there's a bot stuck on top of Drumblebee's chassis.  And in one case, I used the stinger to hit the carbon fiber extender holding on The Anarchist's Cookbook's weapon motor and disable it in one fell swoop.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #144 on: December 29, 2009, 11:14:26 PM »
*insert robo smiley here*

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« Reply #145 on: December 29, 2009, 11:18:49 PM »
That tail probably isn't doing much, but it looks way too awesome to take off.

Please send Naryar a team. :D

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #146 on: December 30, 2009, 01:21:13 AM »
It looks really awesome!

Probably, if you added some sort of trapping mechanism that doesn't take up too much weight or your ability to run upside-down, you can use the weight for more armor, and maybe better wheels.
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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #147 on: December 30, 2009, 01:39:42 AM »
Please send Naryar a team. :D

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DB looks good, your robots always seem to have that cool factor to them. thats always my goal with robots :P

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2009, 04:29:04 AM »
You can use a BSG (in testing i've found them to be in overall better than Mag Snappers, since they have the same strength and the superior maxspeed of the MS doesn't really matter) and just 6/7 ants for this really, and get 5mm Plastic.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2009, 05:23:55 AM »
So MS doesn't matter on burst motors?  Gotta take note of that (and update my popup accordingly).

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #150 on: December 30, 2009, 05:31:21 AM »
Well, i've compared the speed of a Mag Snapper with a 120cm DSL bar and a 30kg hammer on it and a parallel BSG with the same weapon and start/stop angles, and the BSG is roughly as fast as the Mag Snapper, and it retracts faster.

Just try it.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #151 on: December 30, 2009, 05:47:05 AM »
Hmm, another thing to update then, eh click?

Oh, and that tail would work better as a scrimech.
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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #152 on: December 30, 2009, 08:03:41 AM »
LUURRVVEE the bot Click,not sure about the wheels though.
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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #153 on: December 30, 2009, 09:24:44 AM »
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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #154 on: December 31, 2009, 04:57:13 AM »
Fatboys have 1.3 grip so they are fine.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2010, 10:37:45 PM »
Bot for CombatAnts.





Nice and pushy and burns stuff.  The only downside is the lack of wedge and invertibility.  But AW flippers (even wedges of any sort) are rare so I should be OK.


And an update to Drumblebee D2.





Replaced the Mag snapper with a BSG, upgraded the armor to 5mm plastic, and upgraded the flipper segments in front to Lightning spikes.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #156 on: February 22, 2010, 07:30:49 AM »
Can you put up a splash or pics or something of Bisector? I'm really interested in that bot.
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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2010, 10:24:56 PM »
Allrighty, here is a closer look at Bisector.





And a link to the video for anyone who missed it:


Changes since I posted that video: I made the chassis slightly smaller and replaced the spinner shell plate with a short DSL bar.  The hammer snags on bots a lot less often now, almost never.


Bisector is kind of like Kheper in the way it works.  It can trap HS's and hammer away at their top, and it doesn't care if wedges get under it because it can easily pound at them from above.  Unlike Kheper, though, it is good against VS's as well.  The only bot types it really struggles with is SnS's with a long reach, and gut rippers with protected tops like Medecine.


Also, if I'm not mistaken Bisector is the first completely invertible hammer bot.


The only problem is, while it can beat a lot of bot designs, it sometimes takes a long time to do so if the opponent has top armor, and the opponent might win by points before Bisector can get a KO.  I've experimented with different hammer setups with more damage potential, such as a stack of beater bars with a 5kg tooth at the tip, but nothing I've tried is as durable or swings as fast as a Vlad spike.  I've also tried the Robot X Sword since it has no normals, but for some reason that does no damage a lot of the time.  The Vlad spike, while not ideal, is the best weapon I've found.

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Re: Clickbeetle's bots
« Reply #158 on: March 03, 2010, 05:12:56 AM »
360 DEGREES SPIN MOTOR HAMMER :O

I was going to yell "NORMALS" (until i read your whole post :P) other than that, can't really see any improvements to do.

Now the challenge is, can you AI it ?

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« Reply #159 on: March 03, 2010, 05:18:42 AM »
err.. Naryar

And a link to the video for anyone who missed it: