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Title: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 12, 2012, 11:35:31 AM

Hey there, I'm Celestial Panda. I've been lurking around a year, playing RA2 for two. DSL's a great improvement on the original game, wonderful for building all kinds of things!

As someone who is still lamenting the loss of Robot Wars, I like to build things similar to what you'd see on the show, I just wish flippers were better in this game. Is there a method to building very powerful flipper-bots?

So I hope you like the robots I've built! I still need to learn patience, and the best way to line up motors for symmetrical-ness. I also overpower them, but that's because I like to put battles on for 5 minutes and want to be prepared.

Flipping Out
Armour: Titanium 1.
Power: Entirely too many batteries. Put in the Red battery for the flippers, but I don't think that's right.
Drive: TWM3R Drive. It's still a little slow for my tastes, but gets the job done I guess.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95880Flipping Out - Build Area.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76552Flipping Out - OOTA.png)


Saw Point
Armour: Aluminium 1. This is a terrible choice, I know. This bot needs a slight tuneup. =P
Power: Still entirely too many batteries. It's also really easy to stack the orange ones, so I do that quite a lot, so there might be even more hidden there.
Drive: NPC-T64s, wonderfully fast and keep me pretty close to the ground.
There's a Schrimech made with two bursts and two perspex extenders. It tends to Self-Right too well, putting me back on my back sometimes.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28785Saw Point - Build Area.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66507Saw Point - Battle1.png)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on March 12, 2012, 11:39:42 AM

Very nice robots for a newcomer. I'll be looking forward to see more.

Also welcome to forums.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 12, 2012, 11:41:13 AM

The major thing (rushed as I have to leave) - spin motors only need 1 ant battery each, however beta bursts need >20. There is a guide to this somewhere, hopefully someone nice can link you up.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: ty4er on March 12, 2012, 11:44:18 AM

looks pretty cool, liking the dual weapon system on the first bot. otherwise it isn't great :P
and you would need about 46 ant batteries to power the first bot or a few of the really tall black batteries. and npc drive is better for a heavyweight.

for the second bot, you can get rid of a burst motor and have 2 arms coming off one motor and get rid of all the ants except about  9. and it needs better armour choice as you said (the first bot could do with thicker armour aswell).
if you're using wedges then you'd want to go for metal hinge wedges. and there are way better weapon choices and even armour choices (the extra wide ramplate isn't that great iirc)

On the second bot, are those mag burst motors? if so then change them to bsg's.
and if you want a better flipper then you can go with judge burst motors (cheatbot2), you need atleast 30kg on them so they dont go crazy and havok everywhere iirc

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 12, 2012, 11:47:19 AM

30 kg ramplates and mag snappers suck hard
aluminum is pretty awful as well
sideways pole spikes also seem pretty pointless, if you're going to do that, at least put on a weapon with no normals like irons/razors/etc.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on March 12, 2012, 03:16:26 PM

Interesting designs there. I like your style.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 12, 2012, 05:33:34 PM

Made some tweaks. I think it's running a Titanium, but might be Plastic 3, I forget how to check. Less Ants (10), and looks a little more visually pleasing while being more armoured thanks to the DSL bars. (The spikes are for aesthetics more than anything). The Schrimechs are a lesser motor, so now it doesn't flail wildly when self-righting XD

It does have this issue where driving forwards, it just veers to the right. I've another bot that does the same thing, maybe I'm a lop-sided builder? As far as I can tell one of the Perm-80s sinks through the chassis more than the other.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/81612Saw Point II - Build Area.png)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Conraaa on March 12, 2012, 05:34:35 PM

Take the wheels off and put them back on again, sometimes works for me.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 12, 2012, 05:44:08 PM

That totally worked! Thank you!

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 13, 2012, 02:38:00 AM

Looks nice. Only thing I can think now is a little bit of chassis shrinking to get some more weight for more substantial weapons :P

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 15, 2012, 02:31:29 PM

Flipping Out II
Power - 2 Large Blacks, 24 Ants.
Armour - Titanium 3.
Uses regular NPCs, and rubber wheels. I tried Hypnos and Micros, but I want more speed, and cant really get it. I guess I should lower the armour..

I think it needs more power? It's too slow for my liking, but if a robot can go Out Of The Arena, it will. Sometimes the force causes my robot to do a forwards flip XD
So far it's beaten Grog, Wide Load, UnDeadbeat all in the RW Arena.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68861Flipping Out II - Build Area.png)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 22, 2012, 10:46:17 AM

have you tried making something that's  invertible? its the one thing that will automatically troll a flipper (hovercraft engines are not a robot type.)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 22, 2012, 11:51:03 AM

I do have an invertible robot ready to show, but it's at a PC I'm unable to reach for a week or so.
Flipping Out tends not to care if you're invertible (and it's in an arena where you can go OOTA) ;P

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on March 22, 2012, 12:04:16 PM

Getting better. There's a few things you can do to make it better, though. For starters, the flipper skirts you're using are VERY flimsy. Ideally you want Titanium, or preferably Steel. For a faster bot, you probably need NPC Fasts, and Hypno Wheels to give reduced ground clearance. It also looks as though you could reduce the height of the chassis to get the weight you need, you can have the top part of the Beta Burst, with the gear and flipper part sticking out of the top, thanks to the collision mesh. Perhaps you could try swapping a few ants, which seem to be eating up quite a lot of weight for a couple more of the tall batteries. A Beta Burst requires 17 ants for full power, IIRC. Or 21. I forget. The tall batteries are the equivelant of six ants for less weight.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 22, 2012, 01:05:58 PM

Needs to be faster.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 22, 2012, 02:02:58 PM

Yes it does. The rebuild that's taking part in RIWS3 is much faster with 4 wheels, 4 black bats and ants to make sure it's fully powered.
Interesting about the flipper skirts, I thought I remembered a post that said; The lighter the thing on a burst, the more "powerful" the flipper. That's why I went for Polycarb skirts, I've noticed they fall off a lot though, so I will try Titanium or Steel, definitely.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on March 22, 2012, 02:16:18 PM

That's true, but the Beta Burst is so damn powerful, that you could have a 120cm Angled Steel Skirt, and easily throw the opponent into the air with a pair of them. Provided you've got enough batteries. And the Poly Skirts you're using have a disastrous HP to Weight ratio, for some reason all the skirts of the same material have the same HP. So the 40cm skirts are twice as strong per unit weight as the 80cm skirts.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on March 31, 2012, 08:06:18 AM

Q: What happens when you take Typhoon's chassis, and attempt to build a robot without changing it's shape or height?
A: Typhoon DSL! HW, lots of power, Plastic 1 (I think). It likes to veer right when moving forwards.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55471Typhoon - Build Area.png)

Rotated Sheck parts are so that it reaches the floor (sort of), but it also looks kinda cool so a double whammy!

And then I made a MW version of it too:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50283Cyclone - Build Area.png)
Same chassis, 392kg, less damaging but more IRL.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 31, 2012, 08:17:24 AM

Oh my god, that looks amazing.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on March 31, 2012, 08:39:21 AM

Looks pretty cool.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 31, 2012, 08:56:42 AM

OK, that's cool.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 06, 2012, 03:47:03 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4396Pterodaxel - Splash.jpg)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on April 06, 2012, 04:08:29 PM

Looks pretty cool. Love the "wings".

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: powerrave on April 06, 2012, 04:26:27 PM

Not sure about effective, but it sure as heck looks cool.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 07, 2012, 03:41:32 PM

Not effective at all, scoops suck against wedges 'n' jazz. Also, if you spin on the spot it gets unstable. But firing the axe doesn't make it lift up much, so there's that.

New robot!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60175Sledgeling - Splash.jpg)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on April 07, 2012, 03:42:37 PM

unrealistic, the dsl bar/hammers cut though the motor

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on April 07, 2012, 03:44:30 PM

If it's IRL, you may want to improve your skin.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on April 07, 2012, 03:59:54 PM

If it's IRL, you might want to think about the MOE Motor. It's much longer than the Perm EL, so that'll allow you to avoid the unrealisticness.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 07, 2012, 04:05:49 PM

I think I wish this was IRL but in the end was just kinda cool. It's not even as effective as Vengence, which makes me sad.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Naryar on April 08, 2012, 05:28:13 AM

it's not IRL since it's unrealistic.

Still looks cool though.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 08, 2012, 04:02:26 PM

Let's try a new one!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38242Whelp - Splash.jpg)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: powerrave on April 08, 2012, 04:05:59 PM

Looks cool and I surely like the idea behind it.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on April 08, 2012, 04:16:24 PM

Definitely looks cool. I'd try and perhaps get a few more weapons on the top part, is that a hammer or a Srimech?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 08, 2012, 04:22:04 PM

neither, I can't seem to fit a burst in the small space >>

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: powerrave on April 08, 2012, 04:24:51 PM

Kinda too bad. It won't be happy when it's flipped. Can't be helped I guess.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on April 08, 2012, 09:04:35 PM

That is awesome. Shame it's not invertible.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on April 09, 2012, 04:52:53 AM

very nice!
your wings may gave me some ideas

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 18, 2012, 01:53:19 PM

Probably the last revision I'll make on this one for a while. Not the last flipper you'll see though  ;)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80948Flipping Out III - Splash.jpg)
Forgot to put it on the splash, but has Titanium 3 I think.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on April 18, 2012, 01:58:22 PM

Looks decent. What I would do is remove the rear assembly, that's eating up a huge chink of weight that could either be used for batteries (flippers like this need as much battery power as you can get), or some more drive, it looks quite slow at the moment. And try to get metal hinge wedges as opposed to skirt hinges, they're generally stronger for getting under your opponents. And don't overlap the flippers like that. It compromises the wedginess of them, and it makes it easier for you to be flanked, like what happened in RIW3.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on April 19, 2012, 09:27:50 AM

I've been watching a lot of old Robot Wars (Seasons 1 to 4), so I tried even harder to keep to an IRL standard.

Henry: Judge burst powered flipper strong enough to lift even a heavyweight! It likes to push and it likes to zip around the arena. Strength is its massive flipper, weaknesses are an uncontrollability and a tendency to flip itself over, leaving it vulnerable. Let's hope it's better than the vacuum cleaner!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95814Henry - Build Area 1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79962Henry - Build Area 2.png)


Ramp Trap: Taking cues from Mousetrap (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mousetrap) this robot is long with skirts to upend it's opponent from all angles. A terrifying lifting spinning blade will chew up opponents, and doubles as a Schrimech! Don't get trapped, or it's curtains!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8228Ramp Trap - Battle.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37961Ramp Trap - Build Area.png)


Scorpion: Scorpion by name, Scorpion by nature! It may not be the fastest in it's weightclass but with a clinging, tangling front and a dangerous 'spike' tail will leave you feeling the pinch. Can also self-right, but is slow to do so.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71587Scorpion 2 - Build 1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88752Scorpion 2 - Build 2.png)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on April 19, 2012, 10:26:54 AM

I like your designs alot, Panda.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: ty4er on April 19, 2012, 10:32:05 AM

verry nice irl bots there

though i feel there aren't enough weapons on the second bot, even for an irl bot.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on April 19, 2012, 04:01:59 PM

very much like the first and the last :)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on April 19, 2012, 04:10:29 PM

ramp trap needs a skin

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on April 19, 2012, 04:13:51 PM

I know efficiency isn't important here, but I really just have to say that ramp trap doesn't that flipper segment next the motor. It's 3 kg saved and the piglet has 8000(?) hp anyway.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 19, 2012, 05:58:52 PM

These are looking pretty good.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on May 04, 2012, 03:51:21 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4498583457 3 - Splash.jpg)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on May 04, 2012, 03:53:36 PM

are those metal hinges cuz those arent irl-ish

edit: i just now read the text

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Tweedy on May 04, 2012, 03:55:05 PM

I think they are mr AS
nice remake of 83457 and the rw style splash is just awesome

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on May 04, 2012, 04:14:37 PM

They're not IRL-ish are they. I was definitely building an IRL bot though, so I suppose if I ever enter an IRL competition with it I'll take the hinges off for more power or something.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on May 04, 2012, 04:19:13 PM

IRL Design + Metal Hinges = Poor Show. But don't worry, I say that to literally anyone who does it. :gawe:

It looks like a pretty good IRL design, I reckon. Although the Frenzy hammer looks quite out of place there, I might swap it for something like a series of flipper segments and a Lightning Tooth on the end, maybe. Something that would better match the flipper and the overall design.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on May 04, 2012, 05:11:33 PM

Are there any DSL IRL AI packs? I want to build IRL and fight the AI, but they're too powerful really.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on May 04, 2012, 05:14:36 PM

Unfortunately not. The DSL 2.1 replicas are your best shot at fighting IRL designs at the moment.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on May 04, 2012, 05:19:48 PM

Quote from: Celestial Panda on May 04, 2012, 03:51:21 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4498583457 3 - Splash.jpg)

Best. Splash. Ever.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on May 07, 2012, 02:47:55 AM

Quote from: Celestial Panda on May 04, 2012, 03:51:21 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4498583457 3 - Splash.jpg)

Do you have the base somewhere? I would like to use that too. :gawe:

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Mecha on May 07, 2012, 07:25:39 PM

Awesome IRL bot, love the splash. :D

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on June 01, 2012, 10:40:52 AM

It's been a while, due to work and stuff. Back and will be posting a bunch of bots as I'm enjoying free time at the minute  :gawe:

793kg, Steel 10 (I think). There might be stacked batteries, but I don't remember.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49031Spiked Cheese.jpg)



And here's the Robot Wars splash, for anyone that wanted it. (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62746_Splash Template.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62746_Splash Template.jpg)

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 01, 2012, 10:47:33 AM

Thanks CP! :gawe:

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on June 02, 2012, 04:27:25 PM

Aww, no love for a dual-sided flipper? If only the laws of wedges applied in this game...

Oh well, here's another one!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68635Dragon's Rage - Splash.jpg)
(Titanium 3 or 5, probably).

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on June 02, 2012, 05:31:47 PM

You going for effinciency or IRL?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on June 02, 2012, 06:43:25 PM

Even more awesome.

And Slaphappy wheels FTW

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 03, 2012, 12:39:19 AM

Quote from: MassimoV on June 02, 2012, 05:31:47 PM

You going for effinciency or IRL?

Well what do you think?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on June 03, 2012, 05:16:31 AM

The weight's a litttle blurry, does it say 797.5?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on June 03, 2012, 06:18:22 AM

797.8 is weight, I'll try fix the blurring in future splashes.
Spiked Cheese is IRL, the vlad spikes are an attempt to weight it down further.
Dragon's Rage was IRL until I extended the beater bars to pass through the motor supports >>

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: NFX on June 03, 2012, 06:26:03 AM

Quote from: Celestial Panda on June 03, 2012, 06:18:22 AM

797.8 is weight, I'll try fix the blurring in future splashes.

If you save your pictures as PNG, rather than JPG, that will solve the blurring. JPGs are largely for photographs, where blurriness might not be an issue, so they're quite a lossy format. For the sort of screenshots and splashes you see here, PNG's give much higher quality for roughly the same file size.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: martymidget on June 03, 2012, 06:33:45 AM

If the beaters go through the things that the motors are attached to, its not standard DSL either :P

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on June 03, 2012, 06:39:00 AM

Quote from: martymidget on June 03, 2012, 06:33:45 AM

If the beaters go through the things that the motors are attached to, its not standard DSL either :P

Oh...

Better take those away then!

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on November 12, 2012, 03:15:16 PM

S'been a while. Meet Gatekeeper.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30920Gatekeeper.png)

793kg. Titanium 10. 4 wheels. 6 Ant Batteries. Judge Burst axe based on Blue Raptr's from the IRL AI pack. Badnik96, if I may, can I swap out Thrasher for this guy on my team?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on November 12, 2012, 03:19:28 PM

Good to see you back. Lil' messy though don't ya think?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on November 12, 2012, 03:20:48 PM

The wheels appear to be intersecting but other than that it's fine, you can replace Thrasher with it.

Nice to see Blue Raptor gave you some inspiration as well :D

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Philippa on November 12, 2012, 03:42:45 PM

Hey again, was wondering where you'd gone.

Little bit untidy but looking cool nonetheless, can it self right?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 12, 2012, 04:01:37 PM

wut

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on November 12, 2012, 04:37:22 PM

It looks a little better in action. The problem was I made the back-arch-thing first, then had no idea how to connect it all up to something pretty. Download it here for yourselves. (https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/DSL_HW/celestial%20panda_Gatekeeper.bot)
The wheels do intersect, could I argue they look a bit like tracks (and the movement is similar) just to keep  them?
(Edit: Oh, and yes, it self-rights fine Kurt)

Also, I made an update to Blue Raptr:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23474Orange Raptr.png)
I call it Orange Raptr. There's slightly less armour, (Tite 5 I think) to make way for 4WD, and spikes that do just enough to stop it being useless on it's side.

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on November 12, 2012, 06:16:23 PM

THE SCOOP LOOKS SO SMOOTH

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on November 12, 2012, 06:52:15 PM

Quote from: Pwnator on November 12, 2012, 06:16:23 PM

THE SCOOP LOOKS SO SMOOTH

Thanks, I actually made that scoop years ago for a Punjar replica and just ninja'd the chassis and scoop for Blue Raptor, which Panda apparently edited into Orange Raptor.

So is Gatekeeper going in LDAI?

Title: Re: Celestial Panda's Showcase
Post by: Celestial Panda on November 13, 2012, 06:04:44 AM

Quote from: Badnik96 on November 12, 2012, 06:52:15 PM

Quote from: Pwnator on November 12, 2012, 06:16:23 PM

THE SCOOP LOOKS SO SMOOTH

Thanks, I actually made that scoop years ago for a Punjar replica and just ninja'd the chassis and scoop for Blue Raptor, which Panda apparently edited into Orange Raptor.

So is Gatekeeper going in LDAI?

I don't want to claim credit, just wanted to show you the nippy-er raptr I play with in my own game :)

Yup, please. I've decided I don't like Thrasher.

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