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A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« on: June 02, 2018, 06:41:26 AM »
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2018, 06:44:57 AM »
Here is my first bot, GROUND ZERO, which I entered into Masters of Destruction. Simple front hinged flipper. Nothing special. Also the first time I used custom skins.
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 06:46:48 AM »
Here is his successor, GROUND ZERO X. More complex, and I even tried using component freedom. 
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2018, 08:56:27 AM »
Build to the weight limits. Lightweight is 249.0 kg, and Middleweight is 399.0 kg. Don't use component freedom in DSL-S either.

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2018, 09:08:42 AM »
Don't use component freedom in DSL-S either.
I don't think any of these bots are dsl-s though, there kinda look like IRL bots, but that's just me.
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2018, 09:34:37 AM »
I agree with Philippa on build to weight limit. You can use better armor for the robot, given your bot's fragility in Masters of Disaster

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2018, 10:15:28 AM »
I feel that you made your robot slightly worse than the original. You do realize that bot's chassis shape along with your weapon position, looks unsuitable for a paddle flipper. Instead try making a front hinge flipper instead to get a little more leverage when your bot is flipping others. If you seriously want to have a paddle flipper, redesign the chassis and make the paddle more shallow, or add some skirt hinges and skirts if you're going for standard while redesigning the chassis. With the later, you'll be able to have your bot getting under other bots with ease, without having difficulty in doing so. 

You should also listen to Phillipa, remember to build to the weight limit. With the amount of weight that's left, you could try with swapping some parts over. For starters; you could swap out the Hinge burst in favor for a more powerful piston burst, or a beta if you want to try a front hinge flipper, get rid of some wasted weight like removing the Canine saw and removing the double wheels in favor of just one, since you don't need them due to the weight they are taking up that could of been used else were, such as some of that weight could of gone to powerful drive motors like NPCs. Reverse motors are okayish for middleweight drive, but get much better speed out of having NPCs instead, which be handy when it comes to getting under opponents quickly.

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 11:19:40 AM »
Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm kinda new to DSL, so it means a lot!
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 11:28:46 AM »
Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm kinda new to DSL, so it means a lot!

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 01:03:30 PM »
Thanks everyone for the advice! I'm kinda new to DSL, so it means a lot!

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 06:41:07 AM »
 
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 08:00:55 AM »
Your bot is still underweight. Remember there is a good reason why other users have been telling you to build to the weight limit. With the remaining weight left over, the weight could of gone into having better chassis armour, having better protection of the front, or changing the small burst pistons in favour for medium bursts for a more powerful flipper.

In addition to this, you seriously need a feeder wedge for your bot. In DSL-S, you need to ensure that there is a way to get underneath your opponent with ease, that's when you need to attach a few side skirts onto a skirt hinge in order to get a perfect, low ground clearance so your opponent can be fed onto your bot's flipper for your bot to use. Without a feeder wedge in place, your flippers are too steep to get underneath anything other than any bot with a high ground clearance. The back protection does feel a bit unnecessary to me, sure you don't want the motor's ripped off by HSs, but the protection could of been used to guard the wheels instead. The AI often does have a habit of going around to the sides first first before heading to the back, so put the back protection to the sides ,or don't use back protection at all and instead use the weight somewhere else if you have to. 

Also if it a little too much to ask, could tell me what chassis armour you are using?

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 08:11:20 AM »
Your bot is still underweight. Remember there is a good reason why other users have been telling you to build to the weight limit. With the remaining weight left over, the weight could of gone into having better chassis armour, having better protection of the front, or changing the small burst pistons in favour for medium bursts for a more powerful flipper.

In addition to this, you seriously need a feeder wedge for your bot. In DSL-S, you need to ensure that there is a way to get underneath your opponent with ease, that's when you need to attach a few side skirts onto a skirt hinge in order to get a perfect, low ground clearance so your opponent can be fed onto your bot's flipper for your bot to use. Without a feeder wedge in place, your flippers are too steep to get underneath anything other than any bot with a high ground clearance. The back protection does feel a bit unnecessary to me, sure you don't want the motor's ripped off by HSs, but the protection could of been used to guard the wheels instead. The AI often does have a habit of going around to the sides first first before heading to the back, so put the back protection to the sides ,or don't use back protection at all and instead use the weight somewhere else if you have to. 

Also if it a little too much to ask, could tell me what chassis armour you are using?
Aluminum 1. I changed it to Titanium recently. Will that suffice?
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 08:44:48 AM »
Updated. It is now steel.
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2018, 09:29:27 AM »
Aaaaaaaand now it's 5KG overweight. Goddamnit man, you were -this- close...


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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2018, 09:50:23 AM »
I was going to say that you should probably stick to using either plastic or titanium, due to having good protection and being lighter than steel depending on the thickness. Apart from that, you're on a road with something, but you should make your feeder wedge a little wider and longer in regards. Having a hinged wedge will allow your bot to get under other bots, but having a longer, wider wedges will ensure your bot having a better chance in getting under your opponent. In terms of building, try using a skirt hinge instead of a metal hinge, you'll be able to fit on multiple skirts onto the hinge then you do with a metal hinge. If you want, you can try using angled skirts if you want a little more width in your skirt wedges.

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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2018, 12:27:38 PM »
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2018, 12:29:54 PM »
crop your screenshots
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 12:41:51 PM »
crop your screenshots
build to a weight limit
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Re: A Noob Tries His Hand At DSL
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2018, 05:12:25 PM »
I... I don't even know where to start. For BOTM, Do I save this as DSL-IRL, because he -tried-? Or do I save this to DSL-S, because it clearly isn't?

Either way, I share Badger's sentiment. Also, please let us know with your showcased bot whether this is DSL-S or DSL-IRL, because honestly, I can't even tell. If it's DSL-S, drop the wheel supports and get a beefier weapon setup. If it's DSL-IRL... Come on, man. You can do a better job at supports than -that.-


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