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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: Virus Bomb on June 29, 2013, 11:25:37 AM

Title: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Virus Bomb on June 29, 2013, 11:25:37 AM
I have some questions that I want to ask people:


1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?


2. Which robot that you made did you find to be the most difficult to build?


3. Out of all the robots that you have made, which one is your favorite?


Here's my answers:
1. In between 45 mins and 1.5 hours in stock, and in between 30 mins and 50 mins in DSL.


2. Terramax 1 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85688terramax.PNG) would be the bot I found the most difficult to make in stock due to everything except the wedges being setup on one snapper. took three tries to get everything right. Nothing comes to mind in DSL.


3. VictimiZer (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2838.msg238678#msg238678) would be my favorite overall. My most favorite bot in DSL would probably be Capital Punishment (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63055capitalpunishment.PNG).
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 29, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
1. 15-30 minutes


2. my DSL AW, Scyther. It's sad that AGOD ruined it...


3. Stock: Exterminatus Bots & IRL Flipper, Rainbow Dash (Robot Wars Series 8) DSL: MISSILE TEST 2! <3


So yeah... I'm a Popup-person  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: ty4er on June 29, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
1. anywhere between 10 and 20 minutes usually
2. probably this bot (http://i.imgur.com/L7yokn5.png), although i dont usually have many troubles building bots aha
3. irl: either this one (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75923industryvs.PNG) or this one (http://i.imgur.com/ncBFEUU.png)
standard: i guess this bot (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25028shw%20fss.PNG), although those flail rammers are pretty good too
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Tweedy on June 29, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Between 20 and 40 minutes now I spend time to skin.
DSLS favourite:
IRL/ROC favourite:
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Paranoia on June 29, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: MassimoV on June 29, 2013, 12:33:09 PM
1. Depends, 15 to 60 minutes usually.
2. Probably the one SnS I showcased on 10th Anniversary.
3. Caliente (red falmes, tornado wedge flipper)
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Conraaa on June 29, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
Quote from: Virus Bomb on June 29, 2013, 11:25:37 AM
1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?
Anywhere between 20 minutes and an hour.

2. Which robot that you made did you find to be the most difficult to build?
I would say Wreathy the Christmas Wreath. (https://gametechmods.com/TournamentFiles/botm/dec11/008.png) Huge amounts of placing stuff, then bfe. Then reskinning. Not fun.

3. Out of all the robots that you have made, which one is your favorite?
I'd have to say Miss America. (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34030conraaa.png)

Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Domanating on June 29, 2013, 01:05:21 PM
1. Average 1h:30 to 2 hours. Sometimes up to 3 hours.

2.My crocodile walker.

3. Devourer 2
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on June 29, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
1. That depends on all the variables, I'm mainly a slow builder. The chassis takes me about 5 minutes to perfect, then it takes me about 15 minutes to get everything inside the chassis placed, another 15-20 minutes spent on external components, 5 minutes setting up the controls and testing, and up to an hour making the skin. In total, around 1 hour 15 minutes for each robot.

2. The new version of Articulator (http://i44.tinypic.com/2u4sh2b.png) which will compete at BB7.

3. I'd have to say Super Diced, which will also compete at BB7. No images yet, as that would give people time to counter it but here is a spy-shot with some parts of the robot disguised:
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: helloface on June 29, 2013, 01:27:06 PM
1. Planning for me takes about 1-2 weeks (I only plan out my bot if I*m entering it in a tournament) and about 10-20 minutes to do the actual building.
2. I don*t really find any bots difficult to make.
3. Definitely RTL2. It*s probably my only good bot.
EDIT:
4. BuffalOWNED
5. My tournement :D
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Badnik96 on June 29, 2013, 02:17:38 PM
1) Depends. Most IRL bots take me about 15-20 mins, a good stock HW can take up to an hour

2) I'd have to say Overloaded Orbinaut 2, mostly because I didn't know how to eFFe

2) My favorite is definitely the Zantetsuken line which includes Final Z, but Mr. Brownstone, the Flaze line and Astraphobia are all close. As are Punterator and Ratbane/Heart of the Tempest.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Sage on June 29, 2013, 02:18:52 PM
1) 2-3 hours. some take days

2) FU*K THIS BOT

Quote from: Sage on June 25, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53178screenshot_36.jpg)

Hell yes. 798.8, 2 blacks. you know, a 36HS. built off one axle mount.

:D

(P.S. Looks better at full resolution... stupid automatic image resizer >:O)
3) Solstice. its the popup HS wedge thing with battleaxes in my sig
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: NFX on June 29, 2013, 02:33:16 PM
1) In terms of building the bot, probably anywhere between one and two hours. Depending on things like complexity, weightclass and so forth. Around 5 to 10 minutes tends to be how long I take getting the chassis right. Probably another 10 to 30 minutes for the skin on top of that.

2) I think the trickiest one to build for me was HaleStorm 8 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2322.msg505128#msg505128). Mostly due to all the glitching required, the AGOD that I encountered, and finding exactly the right extender setup for it all to fit together properly. Being a Heavyweight probably made things trickier, working out how to use all the weight in the most effective manner. But I definitely think it's all worked out in the end, it's great to see how far it's progressed from starting out as a Rebel 2 clone.

3) My favourite Stock bot of mine is probably HaleStorm 8 or Schizophrenia 3 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2322.msg454405#msg454405). It had a great run in Awesumsauce's tournament, luck went against it in the final, but it still managed to be pretty innovative for a bot type that perhaps normally hadn't.

In terms of DSL, I'd say my favourite would be either Taur 2 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3750.msg356728#msg356728), Puncture III (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3750.msg336923#msg336923) or Ion (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3750.msg438619#msg438619). I still think Taur 2 is the best IRL bot I've ever made, Puncture III was, I thought, quite a clever and well-rounded BW, and Ion winning both a BotM and Tournament is a pretty good achievement to me. =)
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: 090901 on June 29, 2013, 02:55:23 PM
1.
Stock: 15 mins to 45 mins
DSL: 15 mins to 45 mins
IRL: 30 mins to 1 hour


2.
Uhhhh prob my stock UHW just because it took a lot of time to build.


3.
SpinForwardLeftRight
USS Enterprise
All my DSL Rammers in the style of Bullet Train
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Venko on June 29, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?
I can make (without the testing) any type stock HW bot faster, than I can skin it or showcase it. And I'm fast with PhotoShop. The huge resolution and a certain PC hardware, is what will make your game a way more easy to stack.
2. Which robot that you made did you find to be the most difficult to build?
Difficult - no one, the most time needed - when you try to build something like "The Infinite" in stock, you will know the answer/my pain.
3. Out of all the robots that you have made, which one is your favorite?
Considering I showcase only my average stuff, then of course it's from the secret bots of me. But it's still hard to choose only one.
4. What's your favorite any DSL bot?
I'll say "King SnS", I just love any ridiculous stuff.
5. What's your favorite DSL tournament?
"Clash of the titans" of course. Did anyone want to -rep me, cos my favorite DSL tournament is not a IRL one?
So, it's clear, that I like the heaviest weight classes in both stock and DSL.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Mr. AS on June 29, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
1.
stock = 15 min - 1 1/2 hr
dsl = 10 min - 30 min

2.
bloody murder forever (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6848.msg574828#msg574828) was an all day affair.

3.
probably dolsa 3 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6848.msg575408#msg575408).
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Kossokei on June 29, 2013, 03:43:27 PM
1.
Days, probably weeks. I never really finish with a bot; I'll keep going back in and changing something and thinking it's fine, then coming back the next day and thinking it looks horrible and change something again.

2.
Jester took me weeks of frustration and annoyance and I still never got it right. It seems the chassis I used for it is cursed; Using it for the original Falmer I ended up with the same problem.

3.
Laying Siege. I'll never fight it, but I love it regardless.

4.
Dom's crocodile bot.

5.
I have a lust for superheavies and heavier when in combat, so Clash of the Titans is up there.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 29, 2013, 04:30:12 PM
1.  Depends on the amount of time, ideas, and motivation I have. Also depends on the interruptions while building.

2.  Jiffy Pop for MNGM. Getting everything just right, abiding by the rules, and making it work well was a pain in the ass.

3.  I don't really have a favorite, but I like Arena Robot just for the fact that it was a controversial entry before the tournament failed.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: madman3 on June 29, 2013, 05:24:29 PM

1. About 50 minutes or more in DSL, don't build in stock anymore
2. Faithless from Box Of Nightmares. I don't often go for particularly complex builds so it's probably comparatively easy next to most of the bots people have made.
3. Future Breed Machine. I dunno, it was versatile and effective, regardless of its defeat in the finals of RIW3.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Merrick on June 29, 2013, 06:21:32 PM
1. About half an hour.


2. Erm, dunno. Cataclysm was a b**** to try and keep under the weight limit.


3. Dusk. I just think it would fit into an actual Battlebots tournament. A joy to drive as well, 4 NPC Fasts and two Judge Burst flippers are a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Mecha on June 30, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?
25 mins -  half an hour - 3 days (stock bots)

2. Which robot that you made did you find to be the most difficult to build?
Blizzard, or VeNoM.

3. Out of all the robots that you have made, which one is your favorite?
Mebey Techno Terror: https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11700Techno%20terror%20final%20final%20final%202.png (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11700Techno%20terror%20final%20final%20final%202.png) or VeNoM: https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34023bla%20bot.PNG (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34023bla%20bot.PNG) (that's the old version)
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Naryar on June 30, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
1 - 30min for a HW is base time. Maybe more, maybe less. LW and MW generally take less time.

2- Quite possibly one with a large amount of snapper loaded skirt hinges.

3- I have no idea. Hard to choose only one.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on June 30, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
1) Building is an ongoing process. I rarely ever consider a bot "finished" and I'm always trying to tinker and re-design new things. If stuff isn't working the way I want to, bots can take hours and hours to build. Heck, I've been trying to build R5 for the better part of 6 years.

2) R5. Six years and I still haven't made an iteration I'm satisfied with.

3) I've built bots much more complicated, but R4 is still probably my favourite. I liked the most recent version of Skrzak as well (MW HS, Doomed Bots champion), unfortunately I lost it when transferring PCs.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on June 30, 2013, 05:55:15 PM
15 minutes
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Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: Gauche Suede on June 30, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?
Around 6 hours for DSL and maybe and entire day for Stock.

2. Which robot that you made did you find to be the most difficult to build?
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/KROC2_1-1.png (http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/KROC2_1-1.png)
(Was about a 3 day affair, mostly about guessing the setup).

3. Out of all the robots that you have made, which one is your favorite?
Stock : A tie between Claris : http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/ClariS2.png (http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/ClariS2.png)
and Re_Birthday 3 : http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/Re_Birthday3.png (http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/Re_Birthday3.png)

DSL : a tie between Midnight Sky 9 : http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/MidnightSky9.png (http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/MidnightSky9.png)
and Tigger : http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/Tigger-1.png (http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/coolnael/Tigger-1.png)
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: G.K. on July 01, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on June 30, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
1) Building is an ongoing process. I rarely ever consider a bot "finished" and I'm always trying to tinker and re-design new things. If stuff isn't working the way I want to, bots can take hours and hours to build. Heck, I've been trying to build R5 for the better part of 6 years.

2) R5. Six years and I still haven't made an iteration I'm satisfied with.

3) I've built bots much more complicated, but R4 is still probably my favourite. I liked the most recent version of Skrzak as well (MW HS, Doomed Bots champion), unfortunately I lost it when transferring PCs.

Doomkiller released the AI for Doomed Bots years back, so you could always get Skrzak back if you wanted.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: 090901 on July 01, 2013, 05:58:35 AM
Quote from: G.K. on July 01, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Doomkiller released the AI for Doomed Bots years back, so you could always get Skrzak back if you wanted.
I believe Robo is talking about the version he made after Doomed Bots because IIRC he did make one.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: G.K. on July 01, 2013, 06:37:07 AM
Ah.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: 123savethewhales on July 01, 2013, 07:09:00 AM
Quote from: Gauche Suede on June 30, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
1. What's the average time it takes you to build a robot?
Around 6 hours for DSL and maybe and entire day for Stock.
Lol someone here actually takes longer than me to build something.

1.  Average
Stuff I don't care about, 20 - 40 minutes
Stuff I care about, 5+ hours.

2/3.  Difficult?  Nope.  Time consuming?  Yes.  And the most time consuming thing so far is the last BOTM.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2349.msg598437#msg598437 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2349.msg598437#msg598437)

Also whenever the wedge AGOD and I have to shuffle the component order around until I find one that works.
Title: Re: Questions About RA2 Building
Post by: playzooki on July 02, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
1) 3 - 10 minutes
2) Since when were SFTW's hard to build?  :dumb)
3)Mr Death II (yet to be seen)
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