need more stock builders!

[ianh05]

sums up the forum right now.

[ty4er]

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stock has been around for quite a while longer than dsl, plus dsl3 just came out so of course its going to be quite active in those sections.

[ianh05]

It's been this way for awhile sadly, most stock builders have vanished and DSL is more appealing to most for different reasons (IRL, more components, easier to build etc.).

[ty4er]

It's been this way for awhile sadly, most stock builders have vanished and DSL is more appealing to most for different reasons (IRL, more components, easier to build etc.).

i dont see why you're complaining as a fair few stock-only builders have just returned. sure we need more builders but now seems to be a fairly good time for stock, compared to earlier years

[ianh05]

Poll added 

[Venko]

Voted.
Yeah, imagine if these builders didn't come back... 

[cephalopod]

If those builders hadn't come back, stock would be in a bad way. But I'd say recently it's in the best state it has been for a long time, the only reason there's so much DSL attention is DSL3 Beta was released just 24 hours ago.

[ianh05]

DSL showcases:



Stock showcases:

[Jonzu95]

Calm down Ian. Stock isn't dying.

[Venko]

You must understand that, it's not the DSL taking away people from stock, it's just stock losing people, that go away to do something else!
My showcase would be a furor some years ago with all this new innovation bots, but now no matter what I built, not much people seems to care, or they just check it and don't post, dunno...

[Wolfsbane]

I still build mostly stock.

[ianh05]

The botexchange is also telling. DSL HW exchange has 404 bots compared to stock HW exchange which has 207.

[Venko]

The botexchange is also telling. DSL HW exchange has 404 bots compared to stock HW exchange which has 207.

This is not an objective proof at all.

[AlexGRFan97]

Oh come on now this is just grasping at straws. If the Stock robots from Atari's old BotExchange were uploaded, there would be 500+ stock HWs.

[cephalopod]

^the man has a point.
Besides I for one know I don't upload all my bots to the exchange, and I hear Venko has many many unseen designs that definitely haven't made it to the exhange.

[ianh05]

It's been around longer and still "Dying" because it's producing much less now than back then (currently producing much less then DSL). Not all bots are uploaded for both.

DSL has more recent topics (it's been like this for some time now), more posts in showcases (click the little dots to max out all showcase numbers on the first page of both stock and DSL), more bots on the exchange and more tournament participation.

You can't deny stock is far less popular and stock needs a boost. Perhaps it's due to no more Starcore AI? Maybe INFAI will give it a boost?

[cephalopod]

Stock is less popular I would say, but the stock activity recently has been hugely boosted than, say, from a year ago. It's nothing to worry about. DSL has been dominant for as long as I've been here.

[Mr. AS]

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yea ok i fixed it again.

what we need is for this irl fad to calm down, im fine with some irl bots being built, but OH MY ~ALLAH~ people, this is out-of-hand.

just as a reference, here are the 17 threads that ian posted... BUT with primarily or exclusively IRL showcases highlighted in YELLOW



the entire IRL bandwagon is drifting attention away from the ORIGINAL GAME over to "hurr who can make the best skin in paint.net/photoshop/ETC", bar those flippermaker-spammed bots.

Perhaps it's due to no more Starcore AI? Maybe INFAI will give it a boost?

ASAI anyone? i might be able to get the move on building more bots for the teams, ideas are starting to come in for me again.

[Venko]

^the man has a point.
Besides I for one know I don't upload all my bots to the exchange, and I hear Venko has many many unseen designs that definitely haven't made it to the exhange.

There are some different reasons why I don't post or upload all of my bots : too good, too crapy, nothing special, just a clone, not enough time, being lazy to make a splash and so...
Sometimes the splash takes me more time than the bot itself, and I just start a new bot instead of posting.

[ty4er]

fixed title

yea ok i fixed it again.

what we need is for this irl fad to calm down, im fine with some irl bots being built, but GOD people, this is out-of-hand.

just as a reference, here are the 17 images that ian posted... BUT with primarily or exclusively IRL showcases highlighted in YELLOW

(Image removed from quote.)

the entire IRL bandwagon is drifting attention away from the ORIGINAL GAME over to "hurr who can make the best skin in paint.net/photoshop/ETC", bar those flippermaker-spammed bots.

Perhaps it's due to no more Starcore AI? Maybe INFAI will give it a boost?

ASAI anyone? i might be able to get the move on building more bots for the teams, ideas are starting to come in for me again.

just saying, i've built wayy more standard bots than irl. and i think everyone knows i cant skin for crap 

dsl standard will pretty much be dead after this though. there will still be a few builders but a lot less than for stock.