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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: WhamettNuht on August 29, 2008, 03:52:01 PM
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Hi
if anyone is interested, this is what i think they should put in the new DSL pack.
Robots:
Bigger Brother
Mighty Mouse
Sgt Bash
Dead Metal
Mr Psycho
Cassius Chrome
Ref Bot
Terrorhurtz
Kronic
M2
Turbulance
Arenas:
Roaming Robots
Antweight Arena
MMM arena
Robot Wars 1-2 arenas
Robotica FTTF arena
House arena (battle in a house, so you can trash it!)
If anyone likes these ideas, let me know!
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There is an antweight arena on the BeetleBros website.
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There's also a tutorial (or 2) about decompiling, understanding, editting and recompiling GMF files. GMFs are about 50% of modding arenas. It's not very hard, and it's the same files used to make components, weapons, motors... :-D.
(The other 50% is python coding. If you learn and do the gmf work, I and others here will help you with the Python work.)
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The arena on the Beetlebros website isnt working, i mean that i cant download it because its not there!
And what do you mean by all that madiba?
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What is the MMM arena?
I started making the Fight to the finish arena a while back but stoped working on it for reasons unknown.
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Goose. was it you that had a 'Chess Board' arena? Still have it?
W-nut, Try here: How to Mod RA2 Without 3D Studio Max. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/modding.htm)
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And, which tutorial should i go to if i want to edit an arena?
And looking on there, i also want to know how to reskin components, and how to tweak the charicteristics of a component.
So that i can have a small c02 canister that has more gas than a bot fulled with canisters.
So, yes i will try them.
Just, which one for the arena?
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Reskinning components is extremely simple. But not for all, because some have their colors coded on the written code.
You go into the Robot Arena 2/Components/(insert component folder name here)/Maps and you have a nice .BMP (or .TGA) file to mess with.
TGA's are harder to mess with than BMP's, but your component's main skin must be a 48ko 128x128 BMP or TGA, depending of the component (discs have .TGA format because of the transparent layer needed to skin a circular component, but saws aren't like that, strangely)
But, if you tweak a small CO2 tank to contain more gas for the same weight, this is considered as a custom component, so cheating.
You can also stack CO2 tanks (at least small ones) and not get a huge chassis.
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Oh, goose, the MMM arena stands for Metal Munching Mainiacs.
It would be the arena from the RFL champs:
http://robotmarketplace.com/products/ANIM-MMM03NAT.html
Or Animago.
Just a plain arena for bots to fight it out in, now that would be a good arena!
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W-nut, The doc for GMF editting...
(Nar, Thanks for your much appreciated input.:-D)
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Ok, but i dont want to download anything!
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How to Mod RA2 Without 3D Studio Max. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/modding.htm)
Click on or scroll down to: The .GMF File
You're have to download the GMF compiler to gain access into the file. The site is clean, NP.
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I made a start on it, but its just a lot of blah-blah to me!
And i opened the arena.gmf file in it, and it seemed to me there was nothing there to help me add a pit!
WHAT THE HELL DO I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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first relax on !!!'s.
second, making an arena is no easy work. you can't learn this in several hours.
ask some modders, madiaba perhaps.
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Hey, Acctually, I have a couple of bots to add to the DSL pack, i'll try to link them as soon as posible.
And, will there be a DSL 3 pack?
Any rumors or truth? \:-(
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what could you possibly want in a new dsl...
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A Triple or Quadluple Perm Gearbox.
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useless. you couldnt put any good weapons on it.
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Yes you could. Build a bot that can BREAK THE SOUND BARRIER OMGWTF !!!!!11one. Though considering most of the disk parts for DSL are ever so slightly off balance this could be dificult.
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Build a bot that can BREAK THE SOUND BARRIER OMGWTF !!!!!11one.
This would basically dislocate the bot.
Or make him an helicopter if the bot is tough enough (perhaps all the metallic parts in tungsten alloy... no, no, the bot would be three times heavier) and the weapon well cut.
This just gave me an idea to make a helicopter replica for the BotM. But I still think Enola Gay will be better.
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I dunno what happened to the small arena, but it's back up now.
There's not going to be a DSL 3.0 unless some major breakthrough happens, like being able to edit the exe. And even then it would probably be called something else and not DSL, because DSL bots probably wouldn't work anymore in it.
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Thanks Clickbeetle, i wanted the arena for so long now!
Now my antbots can fight in arena sutible to them!
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I downloaded it.
Its great!
But, whats with the weird things, like the farting and the robot pictures?
And why do you need the stopmy thing?
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Hey, i was wondering, could anyone improve some of the replicas in the DSL 2.1 patch?
For a start, you will need to get rid of the havoc explosion on Firestorm.
And could Typhoon have a much faster spin speed?
Its not just for me, but for everyone.
The reps need a slight upgrade.
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And Chaos 2's flipper needs to be fixed. It is very weak.
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Don't overcharge Click, guys...
That said, for Chaos 2 and Typhoon's power, you can do it yourselves. Just have a look at the replicas, find the right burst motor (in Chaos 2) or spin motor (in Typhoon) and tweak them to make them more powerful.
But this could empower other bots as well, because these motors aren't only used in Chaos 2/Typhoon.
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Oh, I've got an Idea!
Whirlpool arena. This is a normal arena, with a spinning disc in the center. The thing is, that there is two rings outside of it, spinning at slower speeds. I'll explain.
Disk is spinning at 400
Ring one (inner ring) is at 300
Ring two is at 200.
And there is some spikes on the walls.
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Would they be counter-rotating?
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Oh, I've got an Idea!
Whirlpool arena. This is a normal arena, with a spinning disc in the center. The thing is, that there is two rings outside of it, spinning at slower speeds. I'll explain.
Disk is spinning at 400
Ring one (inner ring) is at 300
Ring two is at 200.
And there is some spikes on the walls.
Nice idea, S-32. This might be do-able.
I will try your suggestion, if others can/will help... for I cannot do all of the work myself...
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Would they be counter-rotating?
No, they will be spinning the same way, like a whirlpool.
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Firebeetle tried making a Carousel of Doom arena, where you fight to stay on a spinning merry-go-round, but unless you set the floor friction to the point where you can hardly drive, the floor just slides underneath the bots and the bots don't move. And if the friction IS that high, the floor has to be spinning at a snail's pace or else the centrifugal force will hurl all the bots off before you can so much as say "It doesn't work."
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I didn't think of that kind of arena. But sounds good...
I was thinking of using 4 'Force', laterally aligned into a (square) vortex. It's like the small river in the 'BattleGround' Arena, that I need Spyguy to skin for me... It will be have water (remove collision) and then 4 or more 'Forces' applied as described above.
We'll see...
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W-nut, The doc for GMF editting...
(Nar, Thanks for your much appreciated input.:-D)
As much as you appreciate input............I need to change your name to Johnny Five
(http://myfolderz.com/pics/numberfive.jpg)
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I'd love to see a replica of Johnny fight a replica of Wall-E.
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Looks like a skinny Master Cylinder to me.
Hey! I think I could make that bo..... err...*proving the point*
BTW: Goose, CB, and I are forming a Union, so you better watch out or we'll ban your skinny bot.
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ACAMS: Haven't gotten struck by a bolt from the blue yet, but I still appreciate input, cause it's good for my cpu.
S-32, the more I think about it, the more I see it as plausible. Thanks for the arena idea. Still need help though, so anyone interested, please PM me.
*Wait did I DP? Don't tell Hydro...*
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..... that I need Spyguy to skin for me...
Well, Johnny Five, shoot 'em on over to me, damnit! Can't skin 'em if I ain't got 'em!
(Boy, I'm sure working on getting my butt banned, ain't I?... Being disrespectful to the mods and everybody else ... :p )
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Cool, dude. I'll do that....
Nice you show your face once in a while too....stranger.
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*Wait did I DP? Don't tell Hydro...*
Wrong person...
You're a mod, do what they do and mod yer post, not double post!
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ok guys i need GMF help on this one. that is to say i never could "make" the arena floor.
im thinking a mount everest type map kinda like the pyarimid table top with diff lvls. it will not be a table top just a combat. if you can get to the very top (up a few steep walls) then you hit the "flag" and kill all the other bots. HOWEVER it has to be HARD to get to the top. im working out the path of the lvls and slopes. as soon as i have a rendering i will post it. let me know what you think. it might have to make it a king of the hill so the AI will know to try for the top. if that is the case then at the bottem i will make a death pit all the way around so you have be carefull.... ok heres the idea on screen.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/12860the mountain.jpg)
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Firebeetle tried making a Carousel of Doom arena, where you fight to stay on a spinning merry-go-round, but unless you set the floor friction to the point where you can hardly drive, the floor just slides underneath the bots and the bots don't move. And if the friction IS that high, the floor has to be spinning at a snail's pace or else the centrifugal force will hurl all the bots off before you can so much as say "It doesn't work."
What if you make the background spining or something?
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I think I like it Cuda. But it would me picture it better to have a front and/or side view too.
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ask you you shall get it. this is almost what whole thing will look like. its 4 to 8 sided depending on lag factor. each side and lvl has a diff hazard. also mad if we can do it can we simuate an avelance with the force coding we used on my old HELL TOP arena? IF you can get to the top you must sit there for at least 2 sec. this is so people cant just jump over it and win it takes skill to get it.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47313MOUNTIAN SIDE.jpg)
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Well, it's do-able. We need to IM some details, and I need some more view angles and dimensions so that we're on the same page.
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ok sounds good.ill be on this afternoon.
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Cuda, nice idea on that pyramid. You can probably mod the DSL Pyramid for those trails .....