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Has the Patch improved DSL?
« on: October 07, 2004, 11:57:24 AM »
let us know if you think DSL is better with the patch
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2004, 04:44:05 PM »
i am cool with you thinking that the patch made dsl worse, but can you please explain how?

so we can do the best we can to fix it?
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2004, 12:15:01 AM »
I really don't like the lowered motor speed. The extremely powerful motors were my favorite part of dsl. I'd actually rate old ra2 higher than the patched version of dsl.

and, one more thing unrelated to the patch.... I think that main menu music is pretty annoying.

note: I voted "NO! it made it worse"
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2004, 08:45:41 AM »
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I really don't like the lowered motor speed. The extremely powerful motors were my favorite part of dsl.\

Yeah, I just tried to make a full body spinner and even the 6 motor gearbox didn't spin it very fast.

If you make the motors faster again and keep the rest of the patch how it is, it's pretty damn cool.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2004, 11:05:45 AM »
I pretty much agree with everybody else, the motors need torque. Lots more.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
I think that the patch has improved the mod but not too much... there's still thing that  could be added or improved...

and I just found what was the utility of the z-tek (e-tek) : look at the big burst motor....

but I like it too much.it make revive the old RA2
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2004, 09:59:46 PM »
The patch made everything better except for the spin motors.  They don't need more torque, I think, just more speed.  They actually have about the same amount of torque they had in version 1.  But the drive motors, bursts, additional components, all those are nicely done.  And I like the new music - it fits the overall style of DSL better, and you have to realize it's not easy finding music you can distribute freely with so much stuff being copyrighted.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2004, 10:32:18 PM »
new music ? lol there is no new music in the patch.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2004, 12:52:44 PM »
To be completely honest, I've made a new RA2 on my computer for 1.0, just so I can make FBS's. 1.1 is awesome, but I still say it needs the motors to be brought back to thier original powers. All of my spinners from 1.0 (even the heavyweights) get beaten up by lightweights. It's kinda sad. :(
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2004, 01:11:54 PM »
people were warned that the motors were overpowered and would be reduced..
for a horizontal spinner the 6 mag works fine.. if i still have any complaint it's with the prems. besides that i dont see many motors changing much.
But i know what you mean toast now i have to REALLY work to beat the bots.. not because the bot are impossible but all my bot's fight hard and beat some loose some but almost all are down to the wire nect hit wins type of match.. and i must say that for me is fun i am constantly going back to the botlab to try to improve my bot's just a little.
i did have to pull all perms out and replace with 6 mag motors though because the spin was too slow.
in V1 i had to build a really crappy bot to not win which was wrong.. in 1.1 it takes a good bot builder to defeat every bot.
ACAMS has a bot that can kill em all.. i have yet to do that, all my bots are good against one or two type but loose against another type of bot.
its like that in real life.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2004, 05:16:39 PM »
Fast motors have gone, I hate this alot, I loved them before, it was a break from the nrom and was more realistic.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2004, 11:47:33 PM »
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new music ? lol there is no new music in the patch.
uh, yeah, I know. I mean the music included with the original DSL download. It's different from original ra2 music. (I'm pretty sure)
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2004, 07:41:28 PM »
The subject of the motor speeds is being debated heavily in the top secret topic that most of you can't see, and trust me I am using as much influence as I have to get them faster again.  The main reason against making them as fast as they used to be is that then the AI is too easy to beat.  I think we have decided that we are going to make them faster in a future patch, but how much faster is still up in the air until we reach some sort of balance/compromise between spinner power and AI toughness.

Meanwhile, try to focus on finding things other than motor speed that could use improvement, so that we can include those in a future patch as well, allowing the realease of one big patch instead of several small ones (that would be a pain to download and install).

Or if you have any serious suggestions on how to reach a good spinner-AI balance those are welcome too.

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2004, 08:25:56 PM »
I agree CB all we keep hearing about it how slow spin motors are.
Two people votes still too many bugs ???
what bug's if you have some bugs somewhere let us know .. as far as i know there is no serious bugs . but if so let us know. or is thins just someone who like to nip DSL in the butt for all the hard work we put into it ?

the post is "Has the patch helped DSL"
So what about our new car ... any better ?
What about the tribar ? glad to have it and in 3 sizes ?
What about the new Axles ? for the first time we have limited rotation.
What about the extenders are now fixed.. points on motors fixed.
Astro flight now working right .
The new Jx Burst.. you got the powerfull burst you wanted.
LT tooth can now be removed.
Storm totally redone to be invertable and drive upside down .
New casters/ski ?
New replica Buster Blade
dsl bars now make sence.
Drive motors now have more power.
Shine taken off for you ATI people.

On and On.

It's easy to understand a vote of yes but only a little if your not happy with the motor speeds .. or even no it made it worse if you really dont like the motor speed.. but what about your burst with more power ? or TWM's with more power ? the only real decrease is perms and the 4 and 6 mag motors ( Spin motors) everything else you got pluss more.

But too many bugs ? hemm  (Wonders if Beot and Viper was here lol )

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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2004, 04:50:04 PM »
Generally I feel the patch has helped in all aspects except for engine speed and the DSL bars now have way less HP than youd expect from a solid iron bar.  Totally wrecked an extreme bot I made.  But great job for the most part.

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2004, 08:53:09 PM »
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I agree CB all we keep hearing about it how slow spin motors are.
Two people votes still too many bugs ???
what bug's if you have some bugs somewhere let us know .. as far as i know there is no serious bugs . but if so let us know. or is thins just someone who like to nip DSL in the butt for all the hard work we put into it ?the post is "Has the patch helped DSL"
So what about our new car ... any better ?
What about the tribar ? glad to have it and in 3 sizes ?
ect...ect...more...ect...

I haven't seen any bugs. The new car is way better. Way less pixelly. Keep it. The tri-bar being in 3 sizes is cool but I see the same problems in original RA2 with the tri-bars are proboaly going to come back. The limited rotation axels are cool, but I have ley to test it out on a skirt yet. I have also yet to use the JX burst, but when I do I'm thikning it will be fun. :D I like the drive motors having more power but the weapon moto *mauled*
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2004, 07:36:29 PM »
I have a few probs,the tri-bars are two small even the large,plus the text says there are four sizes,the motor speed is to slow,

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2004, 08:40:06 PM »
ya there was 4 but as they got bigger the bars got worse.. the 4th is hidden now. i don't know whats up with those bars but collision is almost impossible. i was able to get the collision on the smallest one pretty good but as they got bigger collision got worse.
Motors suck.. spin motors that is and we will improve that.

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2004, 02:20:00 PM »
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spin motors that is and we will improve that.

That would make DSL as good as sex.
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