also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
Faulty logic. Mass doesn't scale linearly with strength.
Quote from: Badger on June 20, 2018, 12:09:18 PMFaulty logic. Mass doesn't scale linearly with strength.On the contrary, when's the last time anybody used the 200cm or 250cm discs? This edit would make them at least viable.
Quote from: FOTEPX on June 20, 2018, 12:10:39 PMQuote from: Badger on June 20, 2018, 12:09:18 PMFaulty logic. Mass doesn't scale linearly with strength.On the contrary, when's the last time anybody used the 200cm or 250cm discs? This edit would make them at least viable.Shell spinners, probably. Also, Ejector used one in MOD2.
If was re-designing DSL from scratch, I would make all the motors slightly bigger to force less compact designs.
I was aware of this while working on DSL 2.2, but I didn't know any easy way to calculate how much the hollow discs should actually weigh. I think I did pretty well with my estimates though, at least for the smaller ones. (75 vs. 90 kg for the 250cm is a pretty big deal, I will admit.)
The thing your calculation overlooks however, is how much the solid discs should actually weigh. Compared to the weight of the other DSL discs (the silver ones), they should be far, far heavier than they are. It's more like the solid discs are underweight, not the hollow discs that are overweight. But I wisely decided to ignore this because giving the large discs realistic weights would make them completely unusable. We'll just have to let Physics go cry in a corner in this area for game balance purposes.
The fact that the 200-250cm discs are rarely used probably has more to do with the relative size of the other components than any balance issues. Bots can be made so compact that there is no need for such large discs. If was re-designing DSL from scratch, I would make all the motors slightly bigger to force less compact designs.
Where are my crazy Nightmare-style VS' at? Nowhere, 'cuz the discs weigh too much. Go on, show 'em some love!
Quote from: FOTEPX on July 01, 2018, 05:33:58 PMWhere are my crazy Nightmare-style VS' at? Nowhere, 'cuz the discs weigh too much. Go on, show 'em some love!Did I ever post this thing? It's not skinned and it's still 50kg underweight, so I don't think I did.(Image removed from quote.)