BOTM April 2013

[Venko]

Don't worry Venko, one incident with me in 7 or so years and I'm labelled as a drama queen on the wiki 

Oh, I have this one + forum arsonist, back in 2008 for defending my different opinion against the mainstream, so they are not the first to try me... Altho a "cool group" ganging me up IRL, will lost a tooth or two per member 

[Conraaa]

You forgot to put a rule in and didn't notice until it's too late, Venko.

The only thing that I didn't noticed is how people can interpret the word "bot" into "multi bots"...

Multibots have been around since the dawn of man, quite frankly. BBEANS 2 back in the day being a notable example (Sabre.)
In general, if the arena is capable of taking 4 robots, and the rules specifically don't state "No Multibots Allowed", then it's safe to say that you can enter a multibot into a tournament. I've entered multibots into BOTMS where it hasn't said anything about multibots and ACAMS has let it fly just fine. It's an unwritten law, if you will.

An unwritten law that doesn't need changing, thank you very much.

[Venko]

In general, if the arena is capable of taking 4 robots, and the rules specifically don't state "No Multibots Allowed", then it's safe to say that you can enter a multibot into a tournament.
This is not a tournament, and there is no arena.
I've entered multibots into BOTMS where it hasn't said anything about multibots and ACAMS has let it fly just fine.
He has, but I don't for this one.
An unwritten law that doesn't need changing, thank you very much.
Since it's unwritten, then I can change it for this BotM

And mostly, quit following me in the topics to grudge with me, in the new uberstack discussion, in the new tournament rule, in this BotM debate. Posting nice words in my showcase won't change the obvious - You hate or jealous me for something that I don't understand... Don't say it's not true, You can't fool me that You have something against me personally. And remember, You are not the person that will say what will change and what will stay.

[ACAMS]

OK, Cut the crap and get building!

[Badnik96]

So we can use noobish things to fill up weight but not enter noob bots? I'm confused now...

[123savethewhales]

Why would you ban 140 square extenders when you don't even have a maximum weight limit?  It's not like people are trying to "save weights".......

[Naryar]

Because they're custom components, are they not ?

[090901]

Because they're custom components, are they not ?

No.
The .gmf file and the .txt file are in the game.

[Naryar]

Because they're custom components, are they not ?

No.
The .gmf file and the .txt file are in the game.

Wasn't there some modification about that txt file ? Doesn't it make it a custom component ?

Does it not break the game when you can use 5kg for a super-long extender ?

[ianh05]

Isn't the general rule: If you have to ask about something it's probably a loophole.

[Naryar]

Isn't the general rule: If you have to ask about something it's probably a loophole.

...No ? It can simply be a misunderstanding or a clarification.

Besides, rules are set up now. This is a pointless fight. Doesn't mean you can't just fight it to sate your battle lust though.

[Venko]

So we can use noobish things to fill up weight but not enter noob bots? I'm confused now...

Yes, using a tricks to gain a kilo or two is one thing, but the overall fighting efficiency of a bot is something different. Also the "no noob bots" rule is for a very noob combat unefficient bots.

Why would you ban 140 square extenders when you don't even have a maximum weight limit?  It's not like people are trying to "save weights".......

Nar is right here, they are not banned from other places as well for nothing. You want them, because your bots highly depends on them. The rules are posted, so no point of discussing the allowance of the 140 extenders here. So, everyone cut the spam.

Also, at general, I think that, a good SHW-UHW builder wouldn't need a multi bot, or a cheap tricks and loopholes, or a weight gain tricks, or whatever, I for example, never used any of these for my UHWs and I have a lot of them...

[martymidget]

The only person here other than you who build UHWs regularly is Enigma, and he build DSL and isn't even here anymore.

[090901]

Because they're custom components, are they not ?

No.
The .gmf file and the .txt file are in the game.

Wasn't there some modification about that txt file ? Doesn't it make it a custom component ?

You have to add it to the styles list in the normal square extender txt file. I mean the .txt file is already even in the styles folder :V

[123savethewhales]

Because they're custom components, are they not ?

No.
The .gmf file and the .txt file are in the game.

Wasn't there some modification about that txt file ? Doesn't it make it a custom component ?

Does it not break the game when you can use 5kg for a super-long extender ?

This challenge is specifically 3000kg to unlimited, I don't see how weighting less is an advantage.

And no, I have no intention of entering or changing the rules, I just said it because the rule seem extremely unnecessary in this case.

[Venko]

I just said it because the rule seem extremely unnecessary in this case.

At first, my idea for the rules was, they to be damn strict, so no any size square extenders at all (140 or less) or any other weight gain tricks, and the bots to must have an enormous effectiveness. Then I realized that I want other people to be able to enter besides me, so I allow the "weight gain" components. Disallowing the 140 is actually a favour to all, since it saves weight, but for most people is hard to gain weight 
So everyone, better start using the 120 square extender any soon if You want to fill up to 3000.

[ACAMS]

Get them in ..... you have one more day!

[J]

Get them in ..... you have one more day!

DAWN OF THE FINAL DAY~
I mean....

[090901]

Finished my bot just in time. Let's just say I am not that happy with it.