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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: Natef on April 20, 2011, 02:23:37 PM
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What are your views on smoking?
I don't like it, but the people who smoke have the right to do what they want to.
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I only smoke when I'm on fire, because I have some kind of allergy to cigarette smoke
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As a non-smoker, I can't personally see the point of them. It's a drain on your wallet, your health, and the health of those around you. If you do smoke, then you should really do your best to keep your habit to yourself, and not expose others to it with things like second hand smoke.
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smokings ghey.
i shall never smoke cuz its ghey.
anyone who smokes is ghey.
But seriously It just wastes your money and kills you and everyone else, which is extremely unfair on non-smokers.
I find it extremely stupid.
Plus i'm sort of allergic :gawe:
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I met my friend who I last time saw 3 years ago... He smokes tobacco AND Drugs... He may join to GTM
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As a non-smoker, I can't personally see the point of them. It's a drain on your wallet, your health, and the health of those around you. If you do smoke, then you should really do your best to keep your habit to yourself, and not expose others to it with things like second hand smoke.
Hit the nail on the head, there. I can't see the appeal in it at all, myself.
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I met my friend who I last time saw 3 years ago... He smokes tobacco AND Drugs... He may join to GTM
Oh good, I can rant at him. =]
Seriously, though, smoking has no discernable good points, and it's a waste of health and money. Same as alcohol, in my view.
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As a non-smoker, I can't personally see the point of them. It's a drain on your wallet, your health, and the health of those around you. If you do smoke, then you should really do your best to keep your habit to yourself, and not expose others to it with things like second hand smoke.
Hit the nail on the head, there. I can't see the appeal in it at all, myself.
I agree, too. Although I do understand it is addictive, why are they so appealing?
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As a non-smoker, I can't personally see the point of them. It's a drain on your wallet, your health, and the health of those around you. If you do smoke, then you should really do your best to keep your habit to yourself, and not expose others to it with things like second hand smoke.
Hit the nail on the head, there. I can't see the appeal in it at all, myself.
I agree, too. Although I do understand it is addictive, why are they so appealing?
No idea, but I do know that the Tobacco industries spend millions every year making them look cool.
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I think it's seen as either "cool", largely by idiot youths, or an "easy" way of stress relief by the more mature person. And then your lungs dissolve. The addictive part is the nicotine, the rest of it is a mixture of vile filler chemicals. I'm pretty sure there's a small amount of road tar in there as well.
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anyone who smokes is ghey.
So you're calling my dad gay, even though he nearly knocked me out when I came out the closet?
Geez, if you're gonna be against cigs, at least be educated about the matter.
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I think it's seen as either "cool", largely by idiot youths, or an "easy" way of stress relief by the more mature person. And then your lungs dissolve. The addictive part is the nicotine, the rest of it is a mixture of vile filler chemicals. I'm pretty sure there's a small amount of road tar in there as well.
There's approximtely 4000 different chemicals in tobacco, including toilet cleaner and household bleach.
NASTY stuff x_x
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Everyone is really pissed about this anti-smoking advertisement-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThkvQmtDqU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hThkvQmtDqU#ws)
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Geez, if you're gonna be against cigs, at least be educated about the matter.
FOTEPX has, maybe accidentally, hit upon quite a good point. Young people are not nearly educated about cigarettes enough to know how badly they destroy your internal organs. And the companies are no better, because they print out "Cigarettes can kill" on the front. Which is not only vague, but also wrong. Cigarettes DO kill.
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Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.
I can care less if people want to waste money to kill themselves. But if people have the right to blow smokes in my face, I should have the right to spit in their.
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I don't like smokers. Especially the ones who think they can do here habit anywhere anytime. I'm a bit allergic to the second hand smoke. Also its stupidity. It only eats up money and kills you. Nothing more nothing less. "But its cool" I don't give a dam if it is.
I'll stop now. (cause I would start to go on and on if I continue.)
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Kids smoke cause other kids smoke. Simple as that. Adults smoke cause they smoked as kids because other kids smoked because their parents smoked...
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Does smoking pot count? :P
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Yes
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Pot's not bad in itself, but
1) costs money
2) distracts from real life; school, work, etc
3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you
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Pot's not bad in itself, but
1) costs money Depends on what you get. Pots dirt cheap in my town.
2) distracts from real life; school, work, etc That's why you don't light a joint during school/work.
3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you No. This is mainly caused by peer pressure, and being pressured by your dealer who just wants to make more money by selling you coke.
Like I said in GC I only smoke a joint like once or twice a month, but I don't support smoking a 5 pounds of Chronic every day.
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Pot's not bad in itself, but
1) costs money
2) distracts from real life; school, work, etc
3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you
Sounds like the internet.
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Plus pot isn't that bad for you unless like I said before, you smoke 5 pounds of Chronic a day. The only side effects I've felt are being sleepy and having a case of the munchies. i.e., eating everything in the fridge.
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3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you No. This is mainly caused by peer pressure, and being pressured by your dealer who just wants to make more money by selling you coke.
...which means its a gateway drug. People are more inclined to use other drugs once they get over the barrier of doing illegal things in the first place, with "harmless" weed. If you give into peer pressure once, you sure as hell can and probably will do it again sometime along the road. Come back in 20 years and tell me you've not tried coke or heroin or meth at least once, and you can prove your point.
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3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you No. This is mainly caused by peer pressure, and being pressured by your dealer who just wants to make more money by selling you coke.
...which means its a gateway drug. People are more inclined to use other drugs once they get over the barrier of doing illegal things in the first place, with "harmless" weed. If you give into peer pressure once, you sure as hell can and probably will do it again sometime along the road. Come back in 20 years and tell me you've not tried coke or heroin or meth at least once, and you can prove your point.
Good thing no one does coke or meth in my town. :P
And I think I'll stick pot. I don't want to do anything that can do actual harm to my body, and I'm not to fond of needles. (Or snorting things) I and don't give in to peer pressure. If it means ruining our friendship, I'm fine with that.
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3) gateway drug to stuff that does harm you No. This is mainly caused by peer pressure, and being pressured by your dealer who just wants to make more money by selling you coke.
...which means its a gateway drug. People are more inclined to use other drugs once they get over the barrier of doing illegal things in the first place, with "harmless" weed. If you give into peer pressure once, you sure as hell can and probably will do it again sometime along the road. Come back in 20 years and tell me you've not tried coke or heroin or meth at least once, and you can prove your point.
Lol this argument is so dirty. But it doesn't help prove your point one bit though.
It's like saying
"I am right because I said so, and you can only disprove me by waiting until nobody cares".
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I don't care what smoking does to the people who choose to do it. In fact I'm glad it gives them shorter lives and I'm glad that society has cast them out like rats. My real problem with smoking is that it's the most socially inconsiderate thing ever.
Cigarette smoke is one of the most unpleasant smells known to man. I go to college, and there's people smoking right outside of every building. I know they're allowed to but it would be nice if I didn't feel like I was walking through the Foggy Banks o' Loch Lomond every time I wanted to go in or out a doorway. They look like crows on a roost and smell twice as bad. Plus when they come inside right after smoking they still reek of tobacco.
When there's a smoker in front of me and the wind is blowing their smoke into my face, I'll cough really loudly and exaggeratedly. If it's cold outside and I can see my breath I'll mimic them.
I like smokers about as much as ACAMS likes the Apollo Theater
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I do not understand smokers. Why would anyone want to poison them self like that? Plus the smell is bad, which is complicated by the wind constantly changing direction here and a lot of people do smoke.
Probably worse than the smell of cigarette smoke is the smell of burning soap, however. I know this because the person my dad and I used to live with made soap and it somehow caught fire.
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Come back in 20 years and tell me you've not tried coke or heroin or meth at least once, and you can prove your point.
Point proven. approximately 20 years ago, I first tried smoked a joint. Since then, I occasionally partake, sometimes more than others. Heroin, coke, meth or anything generally considered 'harder' have never entered this body. In fact, my count stands at weed, tobacco, alcohol, and salvia. The only one of those which has become a normal habit is tobacco.
As to the normal 'issues' with tobacco, i'm what i call a 'respectful smoker'. When I smoke in public, I do my absolute damndest to stay as far away from the non-smokers. I fail at times, admittedly, but I do try. I didn't start because I thought it was 'cool' or any of that, it was simple curiousity. I understood the risks, the downsides, everything involved. I liked the perceived calming effect. I continue to this day...well, i'm not gonna blame the addiction. It's an addiction I could overcome if I didn't enjoy smoking, which I do. The fault lies in me.
I admit it's a moronic choice, and I don't suggest it to anyone. But it's a choice I made. If I could go back, well, honestly I'd probably make the same choice. I'm allowed some stupidity, dammit.
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I'm allowed some stupidity, dammit.
Not to derail your point, but what I do to be stupid is step in front of moving vehicles :D
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I live in a house where inbetween 2 people, 2 packs of Cigarettes are smoked a day, and about 40-50$ of weed a day. I'm moving to a private sector of town one day, there will be signs saying smokers will be shot.
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I smoked tobacco for a few months in college. I felt damn cool and it is the ULTIMATE rebel statement. At one point in your lives you will rebel against something. Rebelling against society usually is easily done with a cigarette. Nothing says: "I don't care. To hell with you! Do I look like I care if I live to be 100 years old?" like a cool hard drag. You wont really understand the allure of cigarettes until you truly don't care.
People who are down on life, also tend to smoke. The chemicals in cigarettes are know to relax you, not stimulate. This is why people who are stressed usually desire a smoke.
I quit because I went Mtn bike riding and couldn't breathe for the life of me. I realized that the rebellion was not worth the side effects of making me incapable of riding a bike. I've been told I am lucky for quitting so soon, because I wasn't on them enough to get addicted.
Booze... on the other hand...
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There's counterexamples to every argument regarding drugs, just so druggies can have an excuse to smoke more.
The fact still stands that underage smoking, drinking, and other drugs ruin lives. One of my closest friends from elementary is now failing nearly every class at the easiest high school in my region, because he turned to drugs and doesn't give a sh** about anything else. Even if weed doesn't lead to hardcore drugs for everyone, more often than not it does.
It's such an inconceivably stupid idea to smoke anything I just don't understand.
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It's such an inconceivably stupid idea to smoke anything I just don't understand.
Except salmon. Smoked fish is one of the best main dishes I've ever had.
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Hey, don't take me wrong. I'm not extolling the virtues of it. Recreational drugs of all kinds cause more problems than they solve, and the only problem they really solve is "I'm bored". The 'weed leads to harder drugs' thing always bugs me. I do agree that i'm an exception, however. I think the real problem is the type of person who is willing to try marijuana is more likely to be the type of person who would try harder drugs. Again, the fault lies in the person, not the drug. The drug becomes a scapegoat, an excuse. "I did this because I was on drugs", "I tried heroin because i tried marijuana". No, You did all this because you did it, pure and simple. "my judgement was impaired because of the drugs". No, your judgement was impaired when you said yes instead of no. Very few, If any, are forced to start. It's all their choice. I'm hearing 'peer pressure' out there. That's just another scapegoat. Peer pressure is difficult, no doubt. But in the end, it's each of our choices to overcome it or not.
I'm not exempt here, people. I'm ashamed to admit i've used "I snapped at you because I really need a cigarette" more times than I care to count. It's a lie each time. I snapped because I snapped, the nicotine is my excuse. And i'm not going to make an excuse for why I smoke. I smoke because I like it. I won't even blame the addiction. If I hadn't known it was addictive when I started, I COULD. But I knew. The choice was mine to make, and frankly, I made the wrong one.
To me, this is the real problem. We blame the drug and not the person. It becomes an 'out' for personal responsibility, and I don't think this society needs another "The devil made me do it".
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Hey, don't take me wrong. I'm not extolling the virtues of it. Recreational drugs of all kinds cause more problems than they solve, and the only problem they really solve is "I'm bored". The 'weed leads to harder drugs' thing always bugs me. I do agree that i'm an exception, however. I think the real problem is the type of person who is willing to try marijuana is more likely to be the type of person who would try harder drugs. Again, the fault lies in the person, not the drug. The drug becomes a scapegoat, an excuse. "I did this because I was on drugs", "I tried heroin because i tried marijuana". No, You did all this because you did it, pure and simple. "my judgement was impaired because of the drugs". No, your judgement was impaired when you said yes instead of no. Very few, If any, are forced to start. It's all their choice. I'm hearing 'peer pressure' out there. That's just another scapegoat. Peer pressure is difficult, no doubt. But in the end, it's each of our choices to overcome it or not.
I'm not exempt here, people. I'm ashamed to admit i've used "I snapped at you because I really need a cigarette" more times than I care to count. It's a lie each time. I snapped because I snapped, the nicotine is my excuse. And i'm not going to make an excuse for why I smoke. I smoke because I like it. I won't even blame the addiction. If I hadn't known it was addictive when I started, I COULD. But I knew. The choice was mine to make, and frankly, I made the wrong one.
To me, this is the real problem. We blame the drug and not the person. It becomes an 'out' for personal responsibility, and I don't think this society needs another "The devil made me do it".
This.
I don't smoke pot because I thought it was cool or it was something that would make me popular with people I couldn't give a flying phuck about.
I did because I wanted to. And it was my decision to do it.
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I could rant forever about smoking, but instead I will provide the following informative statement.
Ew.
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There's counterexamples to every argument regarding drugs, just so druggies can have an excuse to smoke more.
The fact still stands that underage smoking, drinking, and other drugs ruin lives. One of my closest friends from elementary is now failing nearly every class at the easiest high school in my region, because he turned to drugs and doesn't give a sh** about anything else. Even if weed doesn't lead to hardcore drugs for everyone, more often than not it does.
It's such an inconceivably stupid idea to smoke anything I just don't understand.
Sounds more like your friend just stop caring about school. How often does he actually show up to class, do homework, and study for exam? I know plenty of kids who fail HS the same way without doing drugs. This problem is much bigger than drugs here in the US.
In the US, high school dropouts can take the GED and go strait to college. So while getting competitive grades in High School is still worth something, to barely passing high school is inherently a waste of time. This easy alternative significantly discourage borderline students from trying to pass. And what do they do? They cut school, join gangs, and doing drugs because their life lacks a purpose. Failing high school should come with real consequences if the government want high school to be taken seriously. I suggest increasing the difficulties of the GED test so people who don't know anything will actually fail.
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Yoda hit the nail on the head. Well spoken.
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I smoked a couple of times, I can understand why people do it. I'm not gonna repeat what yoda said as it would be pointless.
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It's such an inconceivably stupid idea to smoke anything I just don't understand.
Except salmon. Smoked fish is one of the best main dishes I've ever had.
Remind me to bring over some Arbroath smokies when I come to Nevada. Best. Smoked fish. Ever. :gawe:
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I've had those, they were brilliant. =D Would have been better had they not had all the little bones in them.
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They're fabulous, but I doubt they'd last the plane trip, so I'm going to have to figure out how to cook them :D
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They're fabulous, but I doubt they'd last the plane trip, so I'm going to have to figure out how to cook them :D
Cool! We get to learn how to do more new things when you're here :D
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the amount of weed around me is ridiculous. I could seriously call about 5 people on my phone that I regularly talk to and get some, not to mention all the other dealers that I dont talk to around here.
and cigarettes were not a problem since the gas station up the road is pretty much willing to sell anything to anybody.
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I despise smoking but I'm not gonna get into a fight with those who do. It's your choice.
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On a side note: Nate is starting topics that people are actually responding too. It's about time. :D
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On a side note: Nate is starting topics that people are actually responding too. It's about time. :D
Thanks! :D
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I love smoking from my hookah.
(https://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/catalog/Hookah-Econo-QT.jpg)
(Not actually my hookah, but similar in size.)
The tobacco is delicious, the smoke is fun, and it makes for some good bonding time with friends.
Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
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What do you guys think of this anti smoking ad I found?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws)
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Yep.
'specially with the way my body reacts to the stuff
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
QFT.
Also, Frezal, while I'm not one to talk on the 'kids who "hate" smoking are just kids' front, I do know that it is scientifically proven that smoking is bad for you, but then again, it is very difficult to stop. Also, if you quit tobacco, you can end up coughing up balls of tar, as happened to an English teacher at my school.
Also, I have another reason to hate smoking - today I found out I have a form of asthma...smoking near me = not good. And it's not just me. Tonnes of kids in Britain have asthma. Britain has the highest rate of asthmatic children in Europe. This COULD be directly linked to the fact that we smoke more tobacco than any other country in Europe, but then again, it could just mean that loads of adults in Britain have no regard for the health of children around them. (I know that a lot of people are not this inconsiderate, but with the facts there, it does seem like it.) So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!...
...was that in bad taste?
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Exactly my point. You're actually making sense today, GF, what gives?
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Exactly my point. You're actually making sense today, GF, what gives?
I don't know...must be one of those rare times when I become oddly philisophical.
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Exactly my point. You're actually making sense today, GF, what gives?
I don't know...must be one of those rare times when I become oddly philisophical.
Hmm. Something to do with moon cycles, perhaps?
And if by "the crunch", frez means "crunchy lungs", then I don't particularly fancy trying it out.
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Exactly my point. You're actually making sense today, GF, what gives?
I don't know...must be one of those rare times when I become oddly philisophical.
Hmm. Something to do with moon cycles, perhaps?
And if by "the crunch", frez means "crunchy lungs", then I don't particularly fancy trying it out.
Might be that, or what the effects of a properly prepared Pepsi Max can do.
And that second statement? It might have something to do with it being a general term for a high- you know, like a "Buzz", or something.
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What do you guys think of this anti smoking ad I found?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws)
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'Doesn't matter if it's a wave or particle, it'll still kill you.' - Gordon Freeman on Electricity.
Anyway, Nate, we all seen it, man.
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What do you guys think of this anti smoking ad I found?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7_B-9OyZls#ws)
Pretty damn creepy. Although not so much as this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hWxnj7W9s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hWxnj7W9s#)
That piano piece and the scare chord is seriously one of the creepiest things I've ever heard.
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I think seeing those anti smoking videos (about the people on the float) would make any smoker try to quit (based on my reactions).
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Exactly my point. You're actually making sense today, GF, what gives?
I don't know...must be one of those rare times when I become oddly philisophical.
Hmm. Something to do with moon cycles, perhaps?
And if by "the crunch", frez means "crunchy lungs", then I don't particularly fancy trying it out.
Might be that, or what the effects of a properly prepared Pepsi Max can do.
And that second statement? It might have something to do with it being a general term for a high- you know, like a "Buzz", or something.
I get a buzz from Cherry Tango. Only my lungs don't implode.
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Or they could just move onto something else to distract them from smoking...like Oxycodone.
Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
QFT.
Also, Frezal, while I'm not one to talk on the 'kids who "hate" smoking are just kids' front, I do know that it is scientifically proven that smoking is bad for you, but then again, it is very difficult to stop. Also, if you quit tobacco, you can end up coughing up balls of tar, as happened to an English teacher at my school.
Also, I have another reason to hate smoking - today I found out I have a form of asthma...smoking near me = not good. And it's not just me. Tonnes of kids in Britain have asthma. Britain has the highest rate of asthmatic children in Europe. This COULD be directly linked to the fact that we smoke more tobacco than any other country in Europe, but then again, it could just mean that loads of adults in Britain have no regard for the health of children around them. (I know that a lot of people are not this inconsiderate, but with the facts there, it does seem like it.) So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!...
...was that in bad taste?
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My parents smoke like chimneys, have for years, and they are considerate enough to do it whether i'm around or not.
So yeah, I don't even want to know how much second hand smoke i've had over the years.
Frankly i couldn't give a sh** as long as they don't do it near me.
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Why does the longevity of your life matter?
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Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
Better to be a living coward than a dead fool when it comes to smoking.
Why does the longevity of your life matter?
I suppose it doesn't, if you don't love your life.
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If you wanna smoke good for you.
If you don't good for you.
End of discussion.
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I love smoking from my hookah.
(https://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/catalog/Hookah-Econo-QT.jpg)
(Not actually my hookah, but similar in size.)
The tobacco is delicious, the smoke is fun, and it makes for some good bonding time with friends.
Most of you kids who "hate" smoking are just kids. You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch.
(http://www.worleygig.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Tony-Harrison.jpg)
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I suppose it doesn't, if you don't love your life.
I love my life, and enjoy nearly every minute of it. I just don't see why it matters when my life ends. When it does, I won't even know.
When you have something you like, why do you need more? Why not just be happy with what you had?
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I might be a villain, but I absolutely despise smoking.
I already have quite low endurance when exercising more than the usual, and I don't want to ruin my breath and constitution.
Benefits of smoking ? Feeling better, improve morale, remove stress ? You can feel better, remove stress and improve morale with better means.
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I might be a villain, but I absolutely despise smoking.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStandards (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStandards)