Quote from: Badnik96 on September 30, 2017, 04:53:02 AMi like this more than what we have nowcan we also pre-emptively ban irl from counting for these challenges because it goes directly against how irl was intended to workNo. It's the most popular meta, there is no reason to exclude it. IRL may be designed for looks but it's also good for building in a more realistic manner than DSL-S allows, and if you want to make cool bots instead of competitive bots you shouldn't be trying to obtain the Challenge Belt.
i like this more than what we have nowcan we also pre-emptively ban irl from counting for these challenges because it goes directly against how irl was intended to work
That feels like quite a heavy handed decision to just ban a meta outright for not understanding it. Glad it just applies to the Challenge Board at least.
Quote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 05:08:12 AMQuote from: Badnik96 on September 30, 2017, 04:53:02 AMi like this more than what we have nowcan we also pre-emptively ban irl from counting for these challenges because it goes directly against how irl was intended to workNo. It's the most popular meta, there is no reason to exclude it. IRL may be designed for looks but it's also good for building in a more realistic manner than DSL-S allows, and if you want to make cool bots instead of competitive bots you shouldn't be trying to obtain the Challenge Belt.irl was literally created for the sake of nice looking robotsif you're prioritizing competitiveness over looks you arent building irlalso, maybe this will see a renaissance in literally every other metagame which have been quietly dying for over a yeari see no reason to outright ban irl challenges if people want to have them, just dont have them count towards the challenge belt
also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
Quote from: Badnik96 on September 30, 2017, 01:23:29 PMQuote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 05:08:12 AMQuote from: Badnik96 on September 30, 2017, 04:53:02 AMi like this more than what we have nowcan we also pre-emptively ban irl from counting for these challenges because it goes directly against how irl was intended to workNo. It's the most popular meta, there is no reason to exclude it. IRL may be designed for looks but it's also good for building in a more realistic manner than DSL-S allows, and if you want to make cool bots instead of competitive bots you shouldn't be trying to obtain the Challenge Belt.irl was literally created for the sake of nice looking robotsif you're prioritizing competitiveness over looks you arent building irlalso, maybe this will see a renaissance in literally every other metagame which have been quietly dying for over a yeari see no reason to outright ban irl challenges if people want to have them, just dont have them count towards the challenge beltYou realise that you can make nice looking IRL bots that can actually fight too, right? That's literally what I've been doing for the past year or so.
You got my vote for RA2 Wizard. Always and forever.
Totally banning IRL titles is a frankly stupid idea that I refuse to stand for. it's the most popular meta for a reason.
Quote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 02:50:17 PMTotally banning IRL titles is a frankly stupid idea that I refuse to stand for. it's the most popular meta for a reason.Because it's easy to build. Nothing else to it.
After the bracket, the title holder can propose doing a DIFFERENT meta, which can be any functioning mod. However, the challenger and champion MUST agree on this.
Quote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 02:50:17 PM After the bracket, the title holder can propose doing a DIFFERENT meta, which can be any functioning mod. However, the challenger and champion MUST agree on this.how is this any different than any other challenge? the champion can just keep not agreeing on anything, and then either the challenger is forced to agree on IRL or the champion doesn't actually get any decision power.
" a public vote is done to decide/moderators decide/champion decides what mod is used for the bracket from the main 3: DSL-S, Ironforge-S, Stock."If you had actually read the proposal, you would have seen "champion decides" as an option.
Is there anything wrong with this proposal or can we just add my system onto 09's and move on?
Quote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 03:32:06 PMIs there anything wrong with this proposal or can we just add my system onto 09's and move on?Yes. the only point of your system is to allow for IRL, but it doesn't even fix the problem. it just makes the whole system convoluted and not as fun. sorry you disagree, but I like 090901s idea (with the caveat that the champion always decides the meta). dragonfire, thanks for getting this set up and ready to go by next month!
Quote from: Sage on September 30, 2017, 03:39:47 PMQuote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 03:32:06 PMIs there anything wrong with this proposal or can we just add my system onto 09's and move on?Yes. the only point of your system is to allow for IRL, but it doesn't even fix the problem. it just makes the whole system convoluted and not as fun. sorry you disagree, but I like 090901s idea (with the caveat that the champion always decides the meta). dragonfire, thanks for getting this set up and ready to go by next month!It allows for ALL metas to be used, not just the Core 3. It doesn't hurt the system in any way. If you won't run it this way, I would gladly do it, unofficially or officially.IRL can easily be adapted to competition. Simply make it so that the realism rules are more strict than DSL-S's, and that's it. Especially considering everybody is going for the win when they go on the challenge board, and so "tryharding" isn't a problem there cause that's literally the entire point of the challenge board.
IRL can easily be adapted to competition. Simply make it so that the realism rules are more strict than DSL-S's, and that's it.
dragonfire, thanks for getting this set up and ready to go by next month!