Challenge Belt - January 2018

[Dragonfire]

You have until 24^th January 1915 UTC to send me a bot if you wish to compete. Entry period closed.

Belt holder: <OPEN> (Dreamcast dethroned due to no response)

Meta: Stock
Weight class: LW
Arena: Combat Arena

Bracket

Video

Results

Dreamcast was the only valid entrant - wins by default.

[WeN]

oh ok

[Dreamcast]

I didn't pick the meta, so don't blame me.

[Badnik96]

so can i have a challenge this month to get my bot in or do i have to wait until next month

[WeN]

so can i have a challenge this month to get my bot in or do i have to wait until next month

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Mouldy]

so can i have a challenge this month to get my bot in or do i have to wait until next month

Wanna fight regardless? <3

[Lightning S.]

so can i have a challenge this month to get my bot in or do i have to wait until next month

[SagarisRA2]

I sent a bot

[WeN]

I sent a bot

[Jaydee99]

Hang on, so can I challenge for this too?
I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the rules of the Challenge Belt on here.

[Dragonfire]

Dreamcast was the only valid contender who submitted an entry, and is now the challenge belt holder; congrats!

[WeN]

the reason I didn't enter:
I am bored with ra2

[Dark-Al]

Sees that Dreamcast wins the challenge belt for the third time in a row: From my point of view, this challenge belt system isn't exactly working out as well as it should do. It's nice idea to have a system when people who had participated in a challenge can take part in a challenge belt system as a reward. But I personally feel that the execution of the idea only limits down the potential of the number of participates who can take part. I'm aware that there are multiple factors to this including that how this forum has descended into DSL-IRL building, and half the forum isn't really in the swing of building anything but DSL-IRL, especially when the challenge belt is set to something like DSL-S MW or Stock LW. But with the amount of people who do want to take part in the challenge belt including myself, cannot take part at all because we haven't been in a challenge match in the past three months for one reason or another, still waiting for someone to pick up a challenge that a user made, or in a challenge match that doesn't finish in time for the user to enter the belt. So I much rather prefer the challenge belt rules to be rewritten so anyone can enter the belt to mainly prevent one person from holding the belt, all because they were the only one who entered.

Edit: I forgot to add that: I see a lot more potential in the challenge belt. But how the system is sorted out, I see that this potential will possibly not happen anytime soon at this rate.

[Dreamcast]

"I win! I win! I win! I win! I must go and double my salary!"

But I personally feel that the execution of the idea only limits down the potential of the number of participates who can take part. Yes. 

I'm aware that there are multiple factors to this including that how this forum has descended into DSL-IRL building, and half the forum isn't really in the swing of building anything but DSL-IRL, People were able to compete in multiple metas before. It's not like the mindset for the metas are too far off in a challenge belt environment, they will all be competitive before anything else. Even outside of the challenge board titles I see people brag about wins in losses in IRL anyway, so it's not like IRL is just for fun/for the art anymore.

So I much rather prefer the challenge belt rules to be rewritten so anyone can enter the belt to mainly prevent one person from holding the belt, all because they were the only one who entered. Agreed, this would have kept the fodder bot from winning the first month's event.

[Hoppin]

I feel that the challenge belt in it's current state has overlooked the communities trends, such as the rise of IRL and that no one tends to do challenges anymore. However, I don't believe implementing IRL is a solution until we change solve the dispute of what classifies as IRL (Mystic is currently looking at creating a document for potential rule sets, etc for IRL. Which we can either adjust or use. Found here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N5zeHUZg6Eo2rY-FnhRNwp4S1Rrd79_ZQgURy5ha-wg/edit).
What I do believe is that the barrier of entry is too high due to no one being interested in the challenge board.
It is important to make the meta and weightclass feasible to new player who'd like to get into the meta, GTMCS2 did a great job of getting new players to build in metas which they hadn't tried before.
Not only that I also feel that it doesn't feel official enough, it feels really last minute and not announced enough, I often forget it exists.
This are issues which were also reflected when I asked the GTM members over at A Heap of Land.

My idea so far:
Create a system like how CSGO sorts their pro teams
Legends, Returning Challengers and New challengers.

Allow me to explain how this'll fit into a challenge belt system.
"Challengers" will have no entry requirement, meaning that the whole community would have access to it. Here I believe having easy to create weight classes and some intermediate ones will be helpful as it can get people into the metas.
So it acts like a beginners place.

"Legends" however, will be the big league so to speak. The entry requirements could be that they either win a "Challengers" tourney or Top [Insert number here]. In this tourney the meta and weightclass would be more for advanced users. For the first run of "Legends" notable players (Reier, Thyrus, Badger, Pwnator and Sage as some examples imo)  and previous Challenge belt holders.... so just Dreamcast would be automatically eligible.

If you have any ideas for the system yourself, please share them.

Overall I feel that the challenge belt cuts out a large proportion of the community due to it's behind bars entry requirements and its lack of accessibility to players looking to get into it. GTM is a community forum and should be aiming to support the communities interests and help out players who seek to improve their skills and compete with other players.

Edit: Linked Mystic's document

[Jammy Dodger]

i do think what hoppin has said is a great idea and could help make the challenge belt much more active, as we've only seen 3-4 people enter the challenge belt in total which makes it worthless right now

[Squirrel_Monkey]

I was ready to enter but my challenge never got hosted :/

[Jaydee99]

Good idea. This should happen.

[Badnik96]

tfw you couldn't participate because tgm is incompetent