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RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« on: July 30, 2014, 04:54:19 PM »
I've recently wondered whether it would be worth composing a rough tier list of which bot types are most effective in each style (stock, DSL standard, IRL). As such I've come up with a basic one for DSL, if that helps. First thing listed in each grouping is the best of that group, with the stuff behind it descending unless a slash is used.

DSL Standard
IRL:
Stock:
Feel free to contest any of these, I haven't put any thorough testing into this but from my experience the overall success of robots goes sort of in this order. If anyone has ideas for Stock or a more detailed IRL listing (not that it matters outside of Drums being OP) that would be neat.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 02:46:49 PM by madman3 »

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 04:55:32 PM »
No love for side hammers.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 04:56:59 PM »
Yeah they suck bro, everything just kinda eats them

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 04:58:03 PM »
flail rammers above all of those xdddd

i wouldn't say trfbd and vs are top picks, since they either have no defences or no weapons. popups and pure out-weaponing bots are the main types now i'd say
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is this bot don't lost all razors in a fight before do a damage thought

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 04:59:38 PM »

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 05:01:15 PM »
flail rammers above all of those xdddd

i wouldn't say trfbd and vs are top picks, since they either have no defences or no weapons. popups and pure out-weaponing bots are the main types now i'd say

VS seem to be one of the few bot types that legitimately don't have any really bad matchups besides SnS since they can often just outweapon HS and SnS/remove their setups.
As for TRFBDs, they only really lose to SnS, but they do lose really badly in that matchup. Basically nothing besides VS other than those can touch them so I'd say they hard counter most bot types.
I could have them behind SnS but eh.

Isn't this just like A.D.C?
https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=ADC
ADC is too old and indicates a dated metagame I find. Drums are much too high, whilst Shell Spinners are too low and too much is made of the flail distinction which is practically pointless given almost no bots in those types don't use flails.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 05:01:44 PM »
what about wejes

Looks pretty good, I agree with most of the IRL ones, though side hammers, if done correctly, can be quite deadly (Big metal friend)

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 05:04:46 PM »
flail rammers above all of those xdddd

i wouldn't say trfbd and vs are top picks, since they either have no defences or no weapons. popups and pure out-weaponing bots are the main types now i'd say

VS seem to be one of the few bot types that legitimately don't have any really bad matchups besides SnS since they can often just outweapon HS and SnS/remove their setups.
As for TRFBDs, they only really lose to SnS, but they do lose really badly in that matchup. Basically nothing besides VS other than those can touch them so I'd say they hard counter most bot types.
I could have them behind SnS but eh.
heavy rammers and flail rammers beat vs pretty easily, due to survivability and outweaponing capability. same with trfbds really, since they can't have that many weapons because of their design.
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is this bot don't lost all razors in a fight before do a damage thought

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 05:07:00 PM »
Make a Stock Version!
Old Stock Showcase: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6590.0

I've moved to other forums. Under a different name. This is where it all began.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 05:07:56 PM »
Make a Stock Version!
hs and good wedges
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is this bot don't lost all razors in a fight before do a damage thought

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 05:08:41 PM »
flail rammers above all of those xdddd

i wouldn't say trfbd and vs are top picks, since they either have no defences or no weapons. popups and pure out-weaponing bots are the main types now i'd say

VS seem to be one of the few bot types that legitimately don't have any really bad matchups besides SnS since they can often just outweapon HS and SnS/remove their setups.
As for TRFBDs, they only really lose to SnS, but they do lose really badly in that matchup. Basically nothing besides VS other than those can touch them so I'd say they hard counter most bot types.
I could have them behind SnS but eh.
heavy rammers and flail rammers beat vs pretty easily, due to survivability and outweaponing capability. same with trfbds really, since they can't have that many weapons because of their design.
I can see that being true for VS, but not for TRFBDs since rammers just spaz out underneath them or repeatedly damage their top side attacking.
I'll move rammers up though and VS down a tad, but I still disagree regarding their capacity to beat TRFBDs, and I'm honestly a tad dubious they'd do well against Disk VS (Given the whole rock paper scissors scenario of static piercing beating out flail piercing)

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 05:09:33 PM »
Make a Stock Version!
I am most certainly no expert at the Stock meta, Popups are the best realistically and then HS but everything after that I have no idea about.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 05:20:37 PM »
Where's the stock m8?


e: adding more bot types
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 09:24:14 PM by Mr. AS »
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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 05:34:51 PM »
crawlers>>>>
why tf do u have hammers in a higher tier than jugglers as

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2014, 09:10:21 PM »
crawlers>>>>
why tf do u have hammers in a higher tier than jugglers as
Hammers can beat HS. Can jugglers do that?
How you make Alarm Clock Pizza is:
Step 1: You buy an alarm clock from the store, and then you have to break it and put it in the sauce.
Step 2: Fold the sauce in 5 slices and put it in the dough.
Step 3: Paint the eggs with a pitcher of a clock showing what time you want to wake up and eat pizza for breakfast.
Step 4: Put the eggs in the dough.
Step 5: Make it flat into a round shape and draw the time you want on it.
Step 6: Put some old steel to prevent other peple from stealing it.
Step 7: Make it flat and cut into 60 slices 1 for each minute in 1 our.
Step 8: Put in the oven set the timer to 30048813.2884 seconds and put the temperature on 'Volcano' setting.
Step 9: If you think it is take to long, then get yor alarm clock and set it to now so that it will ring and you can take it out.
Step 10: Take it out uv the uvin wen it is redy and go to bed. In the morning eat pizza and also eat yor hands bi mistake.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2014, 02:45:27 AM »
Where's the stock m8?


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Adding to first post, I agree with most stuff on it.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2014, 03:03:48 AM »
ADC is useless and means nothing.

Also that sounds mostly accurate. I would put crawlers in top-tier though.

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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2014, 05:28:53 AM »
For IRL, you should list the flipper's effectiveness in an enclosed arena(combat arena/Battlebox) and an OOTA-able arena (BBEANS arena, DSL tourney arena)
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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2014, 08:38:52 AM »
For IRL, you should list the flipper's effectiveness in an enclosed arena(combat arena/Battlebox) and an OOTA-able arena (BBEANS arena, DSL tourney arena)
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Re: RA2 Bot Type Tier List?
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2014, 09:31:06 AM »
I think side hammers should be higher and wammers should be lower on the stock list.
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